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Posted on 8/1/10 at 5:40 pm to PBeard
Best Pinot Noir I ever had was Rochioli, a Russian River Valley brand. In fact, it was one of the best wines I ever had regardless of type. We were at a work dinner and assumed it was a cheap wine (like a $20 retail type) so we kept ordering more bottles. I found it online for around $50.
Never can find it locally, and I don't know the vintage we had. I've heard there was a bad year for the RRV due to excess rain or flooding, but don't remember which year that was.
Never can find it locally, and I don't know the vintage we had. I've heard there was a bad year for the RRV due to excess rain or flooding, but don't remember which year that was.
Posted on 8/1/10 at 7:20 pm to Dave Worth
Rochioli is basically a mailing list only wine. A small amount makes it to retail, but most of that is on the west coast. Much of what does show up at retail is retailers on the list putting the wine out for sale in their shops. Rochioli is probably the best pinot noir producer/grower in the RRV.
Posted on 8/1/10 at 8:36 pm to BigAlBR
quote:
Which Pinot should I order
So, which one did you go for? I would have done the Goldeneye or the Etude...
Posted on 8/1/10 at 11:27 pm to Dave Worth
quote:I don't have the info specifically for RRV at my fingertips, but for North Coast California Pinot Noir in general 2006 and 2000 would be the lowest rated vintages of the past decade. Neither was terrible, but neither stands up to superior vintages like 2002, 2003, 2005, and 2007.
I've heard there was a bad year for the RRV due to excess rain or flooding, but don't remember which year that was.
This post was edited on 8/1/10 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 8/2/10 at 9:18 am to BigAlBR
i like:
Etude
Belle Glos
Goldeneye
Also, while i do like the Oregon Pinot's i find that that overall the Oregon Pinots have been dilluted by folks ruhsing to get Pinot grapes to barrel to capitalize on people's willingness to overpay for pinot noir right now.....but, Santa Ynez and small parts of napa and sonoma are also guilty of this. they have bills to pay. So, don't restrict to one region, which you obviously aren't.
But, i will say to eliminate certain regions based simply on climate. Paso Robles, Santa Barbara, and Santa Ynez are just too hot imo to produce good pinot noirs from locally grown grapes.
Etude
Belle Glos
Goldeneye
Also, while i do like the Oregon Pinot's i find that that overall the Oregon Pinots have been dilluted by folks ruhsing to get Pinot grapes to barrel to capitalize on people's willingness to overpay for pinot noir right now.....but, Santa Ynez and small parts of napa and sonoma are also guilty of this. they have bills to pay. So, don't restrict to one region, which you obviously aren't.
But, i will say to eliminate certain regions based simply on climate. Paso Robles, Santa Barbara, and Santa Ynez are just too hot imo to produce good pinot noirs from locally grown grapes.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 9:35 am to BigAlBR
I went with:
Domaine Drouhin, Pinot Noir, Willamette Valley, Oregon
It was tasty. I love pinot noire. Thanks for all the advice
Domaine Drouhin, Pinot Noir, Willamette Valley, Oregon
It was tasty. I love pinot noire. Thanks for all the advice
Posted on 8/2/10 at 9:46 am to BigAlBR
nice, enjoy.
order and pickup, or shipped to your house?
order and pickup, or shipped to your house?
Posted on 8/2/10 at 10:20 am to BigAlBR
I know I'm late to the party but Goldeneye.. 
Posted on 8/2/10 at 11:34 am to BigAlBR
Biltmore Reserve Pinot Noir from Russian River Valley is $17.99 and taste like $30.00 to $40.00 IMO.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 12:05 pm to el tigre
quote:
But, i will say to eliminate certain regions based simply on climate. Paso Robles, Santa Barbara, and Santa Ynez are just too hot imo to produce good pinot noirs from locally grown grapes.
There's basically only one main producer of Pinot in Paso. Windward. The York Mountain vineyard on the north side of Paso is under sale or just sold. Martin and Weyrich made owned it and they just went under.
Santa Barbara has good Pinot producers that bring in fruit from SB county. Example Whitcraft Winery.
Tell Sea Smoke located in Santa Ynez that their mesoclimate is too hot.
Not to mention Clos Pepe, Brewer Clifton. The list goes on.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 12:09 pm to Foot
yeah, it seems like Paso focused more on Syrah and other hotter reds.
where is Sea Smoke? what town? I've been to Los Olivos, Solvang, etc several times and while i found some Pinots that i liked just fine i noticed a difference when i headed up to sonoma and napa as far as pinots are concerned.
where is Sea Smoke? what town? I've been to Los Olivos, Solvang, etc several times and while i found some Pinots that i liked just fine i noticed a difference when i headed up to sonoma and napa as far as pinots are concerned.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 12:23 pm to coolpapaboze
Thanks for the response! A wine store nearby (Memphis) had a Rochioli Sav Blanc vintage a couple of years ago. I asked about the Pinot and they said they wanted it but couldn't get it. That helps explain it.
The place I had it was actually a steakhouse in one of the Shreveport casinos.
The place I had it was actually a steakhouse in one of the Shreveport casinos.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 12:25 pm to el tigre
Paso also ha plenty of Zinfandel.
Sea Smoke used to be at the Wine Ghetto in Lompoc. But now I think they are under the radar as far as tasting room goes. Clos Pepe is by appointment only, though I've never been. Here's a link to the current Wine Ghetto wineries. There are big names that got their start here before having enough money to build there own facility.
LINK
Next time you are up here let me know, I live in SLO.
Sea Smoke used to be at the Wine Ghetto in Lompoc. But now I think they are under the radar as far as tasting room goes. Clos Pepe is by appointment only, though I've never been. Here's a link to the current Wine Ghetto wineries. There are big names that got their start here before having enough money to build there own facility.
LINK
Next time you are up here let me know, I live in SLO.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 1:02 pm to Foot
good info, thanks.
Will do, will prob be in late Jan or Feb.
Will do, will prob be in late Jan or Feb.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 1:13 pm to BigAlBR
Domaine Drouhin is obviously the class of the list and probably the most expensive. A very nice Pinot. Archery Summit is a very nice selection too. It's hard to beat a good Oregon Pinot Noir.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 1:17 pm to GRITSBabe
quote:Oregon Pinots are quite different than CA Pinots. I like them both. For a good CA type try RN Estate Santa Rita hills Pinot
I'm partial to Russian River Valley Pinots, but we'll have to try one of the Oregon ones. I've also been wanting to try the Fess Parker
Posted on 8/2/10 at 1:20 pm to coolpapaboze
quote:Gary Farrell is sometimes quite good and at other times too pricey for the quality.For this reason, I usually won't buy it, though I will happily drink on someone else's dime. He does have a fantastic winery.
The three best wines on that list are:
Posted on 8/2/10 at 1:21 pm to el tigre
You ever try any Laetitia Pinot? They are from just south of SLO. I consider them the class of SLO county which includes Tolosa and Tally
Posted on 8/2/10 at 1:32 pm to el tigre
quote:I don't agree. I've found a few very nice Pinots in Paso Robles. I know that Zin does a lot better there, but there are some nice Pinots. Try RN Estate or Chateau Margene. Both are small but make outstanding wines, Pinot Noir among them. San Luis Obispo, just a short drive from Paso Robles holds a Pinot Noir Festival every March. I went in March and tasted some excellent Pinots.
Paso Robles, Santa Barbara, and Santa Ynez are just too hot imo to produce good pinot noirs from locally grown grapes.
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