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re: What odd ingredients do you add to your gumbo?

Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Sailorjerry
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:00 pm to
I agree w/Gris, if its done good from the basics you don't need added crap
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:27 pm to
I don't think gumbos with all of the other suggested herbs are bad. They just don't taste like gumbo to me. They taste like Italian soup with a roux.
Posted by mouton
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:35 pm to
Why do you associate the flavors of these herbs with Italian food?
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:55 pm to
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Why do you associate the flavors of these herbs with Italian food?



Because I most often use them in foods I associate with an Italian aspect.

I started eating gumbo when I lived in Lafayette as a child so that flavor is the one I'm drawn to and there were no herby gumbos in Acadiana when I ate it. There are variations in Acadiana, as well. Some don't use celery. Some use onion only. The theme, though, for what, in my mind, is "authentic" gumbo is that it doesn't have or need a lot of additional flavors in it. It's really a simple dish. Once you start adding all other flavors, it becomes something else to me. May as well throw in some rosemary and oregano.

It's hard to explain but when I take a bit of gumbo with those herbs in it, my palate sort of gets a shock of disappointment. Someone who feels the need for herbs might feel the same way if they ate mine.

Do you put all those herbs in your brown gravies for roast, pork chops and the like?
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 3:57 pm
Posted by mouton
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:11 pm to
I jet think these herbs are veratile and can combine with lots of flavors. I put basil in lots of my Thai dishes but it doesn't give it an Italian flavor. I don't the flavors of these herbs are out of place in a gumbo like say cilantro would be. They just had another subtle layer to me. We all have different tastes though.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:21 pm to
I grow Thai basil and use that in Thai things, what little Thai dishes I've made. You're correct that it's not solely an Italian herb, but it sure ain't a Cajun one.

You like gumbo with lots of layers. I like it Cajun style. Enjoy!
Posted by mouton
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:32 pm to
I am enjoying it, just had my third bowl! And adding herbs does not make it not a Cajun gumbo.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:59 pm to
On that, I disagree, Mouton! You're eating a Yankee version of some sort!
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 5:04 pm to
Happy New Years Gris. I have a big duck gumbo waiting when I get off this stand.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 5:31 pm to
Happy New Year, Mr Balls!
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 5:41 pm to
I add soy sauce to a shrimp and crab meat gumbo if I don't have okra in it.

Also, my PawPaw use to make a roux with shake and bake pork chop breading.
Posted by OTIS2
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 5:49 pm to
GG, PP disagrees with you...an' I'm in the big man's corner. But, I like dat okra, too. Gumbo can vary ...

















But if it ain't got okra, it's a coonass "stew". Fact.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 5:50 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 5:59 pm to
Pee pee on PP if that's the case, his version that I make has no bay, basil or thyme. This is the one I use as a guide. Doesn't have okra either. Must be stew.

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Never said gumbo couldn't vary Otis. I said the way I like it. Go have another drink.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 5:59 pm to
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But if it ain't got okra, it's a coonass "stew". Fact.


Who hurt you when you were young? Okra is child abuse.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:01 pm to
You have a child's palate.
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:11 pm to
If I feel like it Quail, Dove, Robin, SR flour.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 7:12 pm
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:30 pm to
What about Marcelle Bienvenu ? Known as the queen of Cajun cooking, she is author of "Who's your mama, are you Catholic , and can you make a roux? among other cookbooks. She is from St Martinville and she uses bay leaf and thyme.
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 1:44 am to
Sometimes I'll add chicken gizzards to a hen and sausage gumbo. I'll crack an egg in it & let it poach in the juice. Someone mentioned adding peppered vinegar to the gumbo, I do this too.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 2:42 am to
quote:

She is from St Martinville and she uses bay leaf and thyme.


sounds like a solid, rustic spaghetti sauce.
Posted by CITWTT
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:30 am to
Your ingredients are not "weird" in any way.
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