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re: Used Richards Instant Roux in a jar for 1st time this morning

Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:29 am to
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:29 am to
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I'm home right now. I'm tempted to go video tape it for the hell of it but I don't have any vegetables here to do anything with it

Maybe I can throw in some corn to cool it down at the end or something


Let it cool, put in jar with lid and refrigerate it for later use.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:56 am to
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Let it cool, put in jar with lid and refrigerate it for later use.


Then I'd be using jarred roux
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:00 am to
I have no problem with jarred roux. I enjoy making it from scratch, especially with other fats and oils that give it a different flavor profile than jarred roux.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:08 am to
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especially with other fats and oils that give it a different flavor profile than jarred roux

Right. I've experimented with a few different fats. It came out really good with clarified butter once but that's really expensive.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:08 am to
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It's hilarious to me that people still make roux.


LOL it takes 20 minutes max and makes the end product much more flavorful and unique tasting

Who is cooking gumbo when they are pinched for time? This kind of defeats the entire purpose imo. That makes no sense at all, just cook something else that isnt supposed to be cooked for half a day
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:10 am to
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LOL it takes 20 minutes max
OK?

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makes the end product much more flavorful and unique tasting
No
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87978 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:11 am to
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Your response is silly
Awesome, because that's what I was shooting for. Highlights the silliness roux emotions.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:17 am to
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quote:
LOL it takes 20 minutes max
OK?

quote:
makes the end product much more flavorful and unique tasting
No


You quoted a sentence twice? Home made roux makes the gumbo much more flavorful, especially if you use different fats and drippings. It also does not take long to make and is cheaper than jarred roux.

So in summary...it makes a gumbo better (arguable apparently) therefore it is worth taking the extra time (20 minutes) to make.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 9:18 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87978 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:23 am to
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You quoted a sentence twice?
Where?

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Home made roux makes the gumbo much more flavorful
It simply does not.
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especially if you use different fats and drippings
Well then that's not apples to apples comparison.

Your summary is wrong.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175643 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:30 am to
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Well then that's not apples to apples comparison.


Well that's sort of his point. You have no flexibility with jarred roux.

Where as if you make it yourself you can use different fats or combinations of fats.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58616 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:32 am to
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I enjoying preserving the art.
All my children can make a roux.
I hope they teach their children.
If instant roux works for some that’s perfectly fine
i make real roux when im in the mood..... and when im not, i use jar.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87978 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:35 am to
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Well that's sort of his point. You have no flexibility with jarred roux.

Where as if you make it yourself you can use different fats or combinations of fats.


Again, apples to oranges. If those companies made "Duck fat" roux, it would be a different conversation.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:48 am to
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Who is cooking gumbo when they are pinched for time? This kind of defeats the entire purpose imo. That makes no sense at all, just cook something else that isnt supposed to be cooked for half a day


Virtually NO ONE cooks gumbo for half a day. An absolutely stellar, completely from scratch gumbo can be turned out in 2 hrs. Tons of terrible cooks add way too much water, or use watery stock, and then spend pointless time reducing their watery gumbos into something flavorful.

And I know beaucoup people who will make a quick weeknight gumbo....again, y'all must only know some "performative" Cajuns, as opposed to people who actually live/practice their traditional foodways in the context of modern family life. How many memeres whip out a quick gumbo on Sunday morning, cut off the heat, sit it on the back of the stove, hustle off to 11 o'clock mass, and come back for 12:15 to serve it to all of the family who might stop by? That memere might be using jarred roux, and her grandchildren will have the taste imprint of her gumbo as a crucial food memory, and they won't give a good got-damn if her roux came from a jar.

Look, if no one were using jarred roux, there wouldn't be seven different kinds of it on the WalMart shelves all over Acadiana.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:52 am to
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Again, apples to oranges. If those companies made "Duck fat" roux, it would be a different conversation.

You seem to be struggling here

Nobody is saying vegetable oil mixed with flour is better than jarred roux, they are saying when you make your own roux you can use bacon grease/duck fat/butter etc etc

With jarred roux you will always have veggie oil
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7859 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:57 am to
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Virtually NO ONE cooks gumbo for half a day.


I should have said quarter of the day, as in around 6 hours. By half day I meant half of the daytime.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175643 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:58 am to
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If those companies made "Duck fat" roux, it would be a different conversation.


Yeah. But they don't. Let's have the conversation in reality. Jarred Roux has probably been around longer than me and they still only make it in the flour and oil combo.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112532 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:59 am to
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as in around 6 hours.
Good gravy Are you counting time going to the field and picking your celery and onions?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58616 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:59 am to
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Paul Prudhomme's high-heat roux method is faster than opening a jar,
are you handicapped? because this statement makes you sound handicapped and retard.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7859 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:01 am to
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Good gravy Are you counting time going to the field and picking your celery and onions?



lol i just like to let is simmer for a while on lowest possible heat, i understand this is probably longer than necessary.

My point was gumbo should not be rushed and exaggerated a bit on the length of time it should take to cook
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175643 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:03 am to
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I'd like to see it

That is some Paul prudhomme speed

So I just tried an experimental test run

Unfortunately I only have extra virgin olive oil at the house right now and it started getting smokey too fast. Took me about 4.5 minutes to get the color you're looking for.

I think I know how I was able to keep the heat so high last time. I was using avocado oil which has a really high smoke point. The next time I get some avocado oil I'll give it another run and see if I can knock it out in 2 minutes or less.

One hypothesis I did have that I've never tried before today is the following: put the oil and flour in a blender before adding it to the pot that way you're not wasting time trying to get clumps out. It worked to some extent but I think I needed to blend it just a little longer.
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