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re: Today is Yuengling Day here in Louisiana!

Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:54 am to
Posted by AbitaFan08
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Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:54 am to
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I can see what both of you are saying, yet the 2 of you are on different pages.


Yeah we are clearly arguing two different things here. Because I haven't slammed Coors/Miller/Bud/Yuengling once, but to call any of them "very high quality" either means I'm dealing with a lunatic or he's trying to argue a completely different point.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/10/16 at 10:24 am to
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Because I haven't slammed Coors/Miller/Bud/Yuengling once, but to call any of them "very high quality" either means I'm dealing with a lunatic or he's trying to argue a completely different point.


I think they are high quality myself. You can argue whether or not you like the taste of them. But they are high quality every time you buy them. Actually the quality control at places like these are top notch as the beer you buy tastes the exact same with the same alcohol content every time.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 10:25 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/10/16 at 11:28 am to
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I think they are high quality myself. You can argue whether or not you like the taste of them. But they are high quality every time you buy them. Actually the quality control at places like these are top notch as the beer you buy tastes the exact same with the same alcohol content every time.

That, plus no one can point to an aspect of the process or an ingredient that is low quality.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/10/16 at 11:40 am to
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That, plus no one can point to an aspect of the process or an ingredient that is low quality.


Beer Masters: 8 Beers That You Should Stop Drinking Immediately

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Many of us choose what we eat very carefully, or at least dedicate our minimum attention to it. But when it comes to drinks, especially alcoholic beverages, we do little to make the best decisions for our health. Which is a HUGE mistake. All the work for your body can be ruined in a weekend out. While foods and non-alcoholic beverages are required to list their ingredients and are monitored by the FDA, beer does not belong in either. The alcohol industry has lobbied for years to avoid labeling its ingredients. Some to protect its recipes, but most – to hide harmful ingredients. Here’s some harmful ingredients that are commonly found in beer:


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2. Budweiser

One of the most popular beers, or most advertised is Budweiser. Budweiser contains genetically modified (GMO) corn. In 2007, Greenpeace discovered experimental GMO rice in Anheuser-Busch (Budweiser) beer.


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4. Miller Lite

This is another very popular beer in America that contains GMOs. Miller Lite contains GMO corn and corn syrup. It’s “GMO time”.


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7. Coors Light

Coors light is a drink that is very popular at bars and among college students. Mostly because its cheap. The beer contains GMO corn syrup.



For whatever it's worth, I don't really care if people like or don't like any of these beers. To each their own. Every now and then I'll have a Bud Light. But if you want to argue that they are "very high quality", it's really not that hard to point out facts to argue against it.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 11:51 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/10/16 at 11:42 am to
I don't know if I would define the use of short cuts and the cheapest ingredients possible as "high quality", but I'm sure you will disagree



Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:46 pm to
"In 2007, Greenpeace discovered experimental GMO rice in Anheuser-Busch (Budweiser) beer."

And the credibility of the study is immediately undermined.

A/B and Greenpeace in a battle royale. May they both sink.

Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16638 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:47 pm to
Yeah, his argument lost a lot of credibility there. It was stronger when he stuck to the product consistency talking point.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:50 pm to
USA Today: Beer giants pushed to list ingredients

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The nation's two biggest beer makers are getting cold water thrown on their long-held policies of not disclosing all of the ingredients in their brews.


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Among the ingredients Hari has discovered in some beers sold by the big beer makers: Prolyene Glycol, which is commonly used in airplane de-icing liquids, but used by some beermakers to control the head on their beers. Also, something called Isinglass, which comes from fish swim bladders, is used to make beer more clear. Some use high-fructose corn syrup, artificial colors and stabilizers that are linked to intestinal inflammation, she says.


There. No Green Peace involvement.
Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:50 pm to
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This is a true discussion.

I can see what both of you are saying, yet the 2 of you are on different pages.
He is basically saying that Yuengling is the start player on a college team, while craft beers are a starting NFL player. Both good in their own right, but different levels. I'd tend to agree.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:54 pm to
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He is basically saying that Yuengling is the start player on a college team, while craft beers are a starting NFL player. Both good in their own right, but different levels. I'd tend to agree.


That's actually a pretty apt analogy. I mean, I might have gone with high school instead of college...but still.
Posted by LSURoss
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:55 pm to
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7. Coors Light

Coors light is a drink that is very popular at bars and among college students. Mostly because its cheap. The beer contains GMO corn syrup.


For whatever reason this product description made me
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Member since Sep 2009
30430 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:57 pm to
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There. No Green Peace involvement



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Hari has discovered in some beers sold by the big beer makers:


I put these big companies as only one step below our government in terms of sleaze potential, but some random nut case saying "some beers" by the big beer makers with nothing more is not persuasive.

To be clear, I don't doubt that it's true, but the source and information is pretty crappy.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:59 pm to
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4. Light lagers aren’t made with barley

They’re made with corn and rice. As we’ve explained many times on this blog, barley is one of the main ingredients of beer, and probably the ingredient which defines beer the most. While other traditional grains such as rye and wheat are sometimes used, barley is the ingredient which really makes beer what it is. The Germans even passed a law in1516, the Reinheitsgebot, that forbade the brewing of beer with anything other than barley. Don’t tell this to Miller, Coors or Budweiser though, as there’s hardly any barley in their beer at all. They mostly use rice and corn because it’s cheaper, and they think you can’t tell the difference. Miller has been even known to use high fructose corn syrup in their beers, the same stuff that sweetens Kool-Aid. I doubt that would past the Reinheitsgebot.


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5. There aren’t real hops in your light lager.

As we’ve mentioned before, the reason beer can get ‘skunked’ after being left out for awhile is due to a reaction between the hops in beer and sunlight. How can some breweries like Miller and Newcastle get away with clear bottles? Because they don’t use real hops. Thanks to the miracle of modern science there is a synthetic chemical known as Tetrahop available to brewers that mimics hop flavor, while being immune to the adverse effects of the sun. A downside is that Tetrahop has no aroma, which is too bad as aroma is a major component to perceived hop flavor.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 1:00 pm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:01 pm to
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To be clear, I don't doubt that it's true, but the source and information is pretty crappy.


Well I didn't realize I was turning in a report to the FDA. I'm just making the (what I thought was obvious) point that BMC isn't "very high quality."
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30430 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:03 pm to
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Tetrahop has no aroma, which is too bad as aroma is a major component to perceived hop flavor.


I never thought about Miller Lite having very little aroma before, but I can see it now.
Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
2263 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:07 pm to
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That's actually a pretty apt analogy. I mean, I might have gone with high school instead of college...but still.
I reserve high school for Natty and Busch Light
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:11 pm to
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I reserve high school for Natty and Busch Light


This is more what I'm picturing for those:



Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30430 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:15 pm to
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Well I didn't realize I was turning in a report to the FDA.


Just having a discussion. I know that everything on the internet is true, but I thought I'd continue the conversation just in case.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:16 pm to
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Just having a discussion. I know that everything on the internet is true, but I thought I'd continue the conversation just in case.


I know, just kidding man.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30430 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:24 pm to


I've enjoyed this thread quite a bit. Learned a few things too.

Back to the study thing, I tend to believe it, but I'd like more credible sources before I try and talk about this IRL.
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