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re: The Bulldog BR is now smoke free & will serve lunch daily

Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:03 pm to
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What exactly this means beyond some rotating specials, I have no idea. There are a few things I don't mind, but for the most part, I'm not huge on their food. Pretty much only eat it if I'm already going to drink and am hungry.

My exact feelings about eating there. I try to avoid doing it at all cost.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:03 pm to
Is the BR Bulldog menu the same as the one in NOLA? If so, that is more drunk food than lunch food. It's decent, but I wouldn't eat that stuff and then go back to work.

Been to the BR Bulldog a few times, and it had a great crowd.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:04 pm to
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I hear they are.


Good. It needs work
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:05 pm to
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But Pelican House's menu & price range is a huge turn off.



I think their food has somewhat improved but I think these 'beer bars' shouldnt put too much emphasis on food at all.

They (bulldog and pelican) should focus more on improving their beer selections. Corporate and Chimes' selection and variety are pulling way ahead of the competition.
Posted by npersa1
Austin, TX (#ATX)
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:06 pm to
Well, ok, maybe your posts aren't "bitching to bitch," but it's undeniable that you're now bitching about my bitching, which is absolutely nothing more than bitching to bitch. You've successfully gotten sucked into a bitching cycle of shite that literally doesn't matter all.

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When does a place ever market something positively they think will be detrimental to their business? Never.



Wait. I must be confused here. They voluntarily made a decision they think will be detrimental to their business? I read it as they banned smoking indoors on their own accord because they believe it will ultimately be more profitable.

And you're right. They probably don't care about public health or the greater good. That's a sad reality with a lot of businesses. However, I suspect you're going to see a big shift in that in coming years. I'm 28, and generations younger than me are really into that whole social entrepreneurship thing and love supporting businesses that make decisions for the collective good. Doing "what's right" will more and more lead to bigger profits, I predict in a completely not-a-expert and uneducated way (obvs, there's exceptions to everything).

I also didn't get an email from them, but if they weren't interested in getting praise they wouldn't have an employee fielding reporter calls. They'd just stick up a sign, throw away the ash trays and let only the customers and cliental be aware of the decision. There is a Bulldog employee engaging in media outreach about a decision they made -- that, on its face, has to be trying to get positive public feedback. That's what media outreach is.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:06 pm to
They charge the same, and Pelican's food is better quality IMO.

Just compare the two menus online. Pelican isn't any more expensive than Bulldog.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:08 pm to
stop lnchbox'ing this thread. not even reading that novel of a post
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:09 pm to
You and Jones in the same room?
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
14880 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:09 pm to
Both the Bulldog and Pelican House have extremely MEH food. Anybody who goes out of their way to eat lunch at the Bdog has the palate of a jackass.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:10 pm to
not even in the same state. why?
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:12 pm to
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They (bulldog and pelican) should focus more on improving their beer selections. Corporate and Chimes' selection and variety are pulling way ahead of the competition.

In the grand scheme of things you have a point. I'm really not going to Bulldog & Pelican house to eat [besides PH for brunch]. I know that Corporate B&D will serve sliders or hot dogs from time to time. The best thing to do is keep it simple.
Posted by npersa1
Austin, TX (#ATX)
Member since Jun 2008
2135 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:13 pm to
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In BR, that is what smoke free is understood as. We don't have any bars than ban patio smoking. I know that some states do, but until we have a law that bans smoking within a certain footage of a building, they are going to consider not smoking indoors to be "smoke free".



Yeah, that's a totally fair argument. It being the locally accepted terminology makes sense, and I knew what they really meant even when I read the headline since I grew up in BR. But, it's still silly, imho. Just no matter how I read "Smoke free" I think that should mean "no smoking at all." More accurately, these bars should use "non-smoking sections available" or something. Idk.

Here in Austin we have "smoke free" bars that don't allow smoking on the outdoor areas. None of the bars allow indoor smoking, and plenty of them allow outdoor smoking.

And that's awesome you saw me on Reddit. Was it on the thread about the before/after picture of the Pacific Crest Trail hiker where I fielded about 100 questions about pooping in the wild? Never thought my top-voted comment would be about literal shite.

Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7900 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:13 pm to
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Just compare the two menus online. Pelican isn't any more expensive than Bulldog.



Did the Pelican House drop the price of their food? I remember going there to eat when it first opened and thinking the prices were high based on what you got. Like $10 for a burger WITHOUT fries.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118234 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:13 pm to
I was just wondering.
When you coming back? I've got a question about chickens.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82768 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:16 pm to
I think Bulldog owners are definitely expecting support and a pat on the back, which I think anti-smoking people should do. It is a step in the right direction.

Until smoking within a certain footage of a business becomes illegal, you are going to have bars allow smoking on patios. Bulldog thrives on its regulars. They give the place more business and tip the bartenders in one week more than any average customer probably does in a month. And most of them smoke.

This is just my speculation, but Bulldog has been making a lot of different changes lately. They recently released a specialty cocktail menu and made all bartenders memorize and be tested on it, they started adding new food items to the menu and will continue improving it, they are now going to be open for lunch every day, and now they are nonsmoking. On top of all that, I have personally been finding much better beer at Corporate, Draft House, and Chimes. The combination of all of those things makes me think Bulldog is looking to attract a different type of crowd than the beer nerds and smoking regulars. Looks like they're trying to be less craft beer bar and more cocktail club/lounge. Maybe they are doing this to attract the late night business since the place clears out by midnight generally. Whatever the reason, it isn't really what I personally am looking for in a bar, so I doubt I'll be there as often as I was a year ago and before that.

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And that's awesome you saw me on Reddit. Was it on the thread about the before/after picture of the Pacific Crest Trail hiker where I fielded about 100 questions about pooping in the wild? Never thought my top-voted comment would be about literal shite.



It was! Impressive. I've been reading a lot on the topic (long, terrain hiking--not poop) lately.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 4:18 pm
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:16 pm to
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Just compare the two menus online. Pelican isn't any more expensive than Bulldog.

Last time I went to Pelican was for a MNF game in December. I found the prices a bit puzzling for what you get. But maybe they've become reasonable.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46322 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:16 pm to
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I think their food has somewhat improved but I think these 'beer bars' shouldnt put too much emphasis on food at all.

They (bulldog and pelican) should focus more on improving their beer selections. Corporate and Chimes' selection and variety are pulling way ahead of the competition.


I think the Bulldog actually needs to downsize the menu and create more eye appealing food. Also throw some light lunch menu items on there. Unless your regular bar food is head and shoulders above everyone else in town, you need to stand out somehow.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:18 pm to
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But Pelican House is a huge turn off.


FIFY
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:18 pm to
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The best thing to do is keep it simple.



You made a good point here. With regards to Pelican House, theyve been trying to please too many people since they started. Just pick your identity and go with it. If they want to be a beer bar, get rid of all the extra shite that takes away from the beer (expensive food, bands, cover prices). They may have bitten off more than they can chew with the size of that space. I hope they make it because the owners and people running the place are great people and took a big risk with the place.

Bulldog can get away with doing some different things because they are established and they had a good name as a bar coming from Nola. They would literally have to try and make that place fail now.

Corporate is keeping it simple like you said. Great beer selection with a very knowledgeable guy doing the beer. He has an owner that doesnt mind spending money and seems to stay out of the way when the situation calls for it. The ability to get small pours is a huge plus and theyre the only place in the city that offers pours from 3-16 ounces.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82768 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:19 pm to
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Like $10 for a burger WITHOUT fries.

Their burger is $10 with fries now. $2 for bacon. $1 for cheese.

Bulldog's burger without cheese or bacon is $8 and fries are $2. So the same.

One thing that kills me about Bulldog's menu is it looks large, but really they have like 10 different variations of the chicken sandwich.. 10 different variations of a burger.. and then the other stuff. WHY? I don't understand it
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