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re: Smoke free bars in NOLA?
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:48 pm to LSUintheNW
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:48 pm to LSUintheNW
Chickie Wah Wah
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Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:48 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Hasn't effected the businesses in the states where smoking indoors has been banned. People just go outside.
Sure...in aggregate. But if you have a place like a cigar bar for instance then you're fricked.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:50 pm to Powerman
do you smoke in your house pman
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:51 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:53 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Hasn't effected the businesses in the states where smoking indoors has been banned. People just go outside.
Saying it don't make it so. Restaurants sure, but when drinking and smokers are involved I seriously doubt that's the case. Regardless, why would you want to make anyone do something they don't want to do as a business owner who's patrons are smokers? As PM said, it's a fricking bar. Just go elsewhere where smoking isn't allowed and everyone is served as they should in keeping with the free market and you don't wipe your arse with people's liberties in the process.
And guess what, if the market dictates that it's more financially benificial to have a non smoking bar to that of a smoking bar in the future then those who ban smoking as business owners will win and those who don't will either lose or capture all the hold out smokers, and still, everyone wins.
This post was edited on 1/16/12 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:56 pm to Lester Earl
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do you smoke in your house pman
No...I step outside to smoke if I'm at home
Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:58 pm to Powerman
Why do you do so? (Asking already knowing why 
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)Posted on 1/16/12 at 2:59 pm to LSUintheNW
Cause it's nasty as frick.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 3:23 pm to Mike da Tigah
So why are the smokers liberties more important than mine?
Posted on 1/16/12 at 3:23 pm to saderade
quote:+100000000000000000
If the owner wants to allow people to smoke in his establishment then that is his decision. People aren't forced to go in and people aren't forced to work there. /thread
And I say this as someone that hates smoking in bars.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 3:24 pm to TreyAnastasio
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So why are the smokers liberties more important than mine?
Because you don't understand what the word liberty means
Posted on 1/16/12 at 3:26 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:Smokers can choose to patronize bars where smoking is allowed, and you can choose to patronize bars where it is not allowed. This equal liberty scenario is not sufficient for you? You have to expand your "liberties" to impose on smokers, friends of smokers, and bar owners who would like to allow smoking in their privately-owned establishments?
So why are the smokers liberties more important than mine?
Should cooking with peanut oil in restaurants be banned because you have a peanut allergy?
Posted on 1/16/12 at 3:29 pm to Jamohn
Liberty doesn't mean that you have some right to go to private establishments and have people be forced not to do things that you don't like.
I don't like country music. If I go to a bar that plays country music it isn't trampling on my liberties. I need to find another bar that I like to go to or just don't go to bars if it bothers me that much.
Same with smoking.
I don't like country music. If I go to a bar that plays country music it isn't trampling on my liberties. I need to find another bar that I like to go to or just don't go to bars if it bothers me that much.
Same with smoking.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 3:29 pm to TreyAnastasio
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o why are the smokers liberties more important than mine?
They aren't. You don't have to go. Allowing for others to enjoy their liberties while them letting you enjoy yours is what America is all about. Dictating such policies from government however is NOT in the spirit of what this country is supposed to be about. When people, especially those who call themselves "conservative" begin rationalizing and justifying such legislation placed upon the private sector simply because they really just want to dictate the policies of private business it's appalling.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 3:30 pm to Mike da Tigah
It's rather curious why it never occurs to these people to open up a smoke free bar themselves
Posted on 1/16/12 at 3:35 pm to Powerman
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It's rather curious why it never occurs to these people to open up a smoke free bar themselves
Exactly, if the market is that big, then surely it's a can't miss business opportunit being missed here.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 4:19 pm to LSUintheNW
Posted on 1/16/12 at 4:35 pm to Littleman
Thanks! 
Bookmarked!
Bookmarked!
Posted on 1/16/12 at 5:58 pm to Mike da Tigah
quote:like always, you're wrong. They banned smoking here, and it hasnt affected the bar business one single bit.
Restaurants sure, but when drinking and smokers are involved I seriously doubt that's the case
quote:
And guess what, if the market dictates
want to take a stab at what else the market dictates?
quote:
They aren't. You don't have to go. Allowing for others to enjoy their liberties while them letting you enjoy yours is what America is all about. Dictating such policies from government however is NOT in the spirit of what this country is supposed to be about. When people, especially those who call themselves "conservative" begin rationalizing and justifying such legislation placed upon the private sector simply because they really just want to dictate the policies of private business it's appalling.
.....and eating at a chain restaurant is a what? Violation?
You mean if I want to dine out, and choose NOT to go to some locally-owned establishment, I don't have to go? Without recourse from you and your perceived social injustice? What a novel concept...a free market at work
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