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re: Seed Oils- Any updates?

Posted on 7/2/25 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 3:50 pm to
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You’ve presented exactly zero evidence to support your position while actual scientist disagree with you
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 3:54 pm to
Still waiting for even one shred of empirical evidence you supposedly have. How does something get published in the year 2025 without having a digital copy? Very unusual
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 3:57 pm to
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How does something get published in the year 2025 without having a digital copy? Very unusual
You thought that was serious

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Still waiting for even one shred of empirical evidence you supposedly have
What kind of evidence am I suppose to have? What do you have?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 3:58 pm to
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What's the current consensus in 2025 for the seed oil issue?
They are basically poison. Do not consume in any amount.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:05 pm to
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You thought that was serious


As I expected you’re totally full of shite

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What kind of evidence am I suppose to have? What do you have?


Something to refute that the oxidation of cooking seed oils is bad for you would be a good start. Should be pretty easy. After all, you’re the only one claiming you “feel better” and “live longer” by eating these seed oils
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:05 pm to
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After all, you’re the only one claiming you “feel better” and “live longer” by eating these seed oils
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:07 pm to
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Posted by AlxTgr 7/2/25 at 3:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO

When you consume them, you feel good and live longer.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:08 pm to
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Posted by AlxTgr 7/2/25 at 3:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO

When you consume them, you feel good and live longer.
Are you saying I don't?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:10 pm to
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Are you saying I don't?


Yes
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:12 pm to
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Yes
Go on.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:12 pm to
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Like most things, seed oils are fine in moderation. They have some good benefits to them.

I'll disagree with you on this one. Processed seed oils are bad for you in any amount in my opinion. In regards to "in moderation," pretty much every packaged food on an American shelf has, at the very least, small amounts of lecithinated oils. If you consume those types of foods, and you're using those oils to cook, for every meal and a snack, you're consuming a "moderate amount" all day long. This has a chronic impact on your immune system.

Cold pressed, "extra virgin" oils are safe, and often have health benefits. It's mostly in how they are processed.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Go on.


Cooked seed oil oxidize which can lead to inflammation and other health issues. Additionally, there have been studies done where people with high amounts of polyunsaturated vegetable oils in their diet had increased instances of cancer.

Lots of evidence this shite is bad for you, and as mentioned in this thread, if you are buying anything shelf stable, there’s oils in it. Meaning you are ingesting quite a bit.

The ONLY thing you can point to is seed oils have linoleic acids and other omega 6’s in them, but you don’t need to eat seed oils to get those and we’re not even really certain of their role in the body anyway.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86187 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:27 pm to
There's no consensus on any of these claims. The average consumer doing research will encounter things like this from Europe
From 2025 for the what year is this crowd:

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Takeaways
Seed oils are heart-healthy oils with many benefits: they are affordable, high in vitamin E and, and are stable at high temperatures.
Seed oils are rich in vitamin E, which acts as an antioxidant and helps protect the body from oxidative stress by preventing free radical damage. Studies show no evidence that eating seed oils increases markers of oxidative stress in the body.
Oxidative stress can come from many sources, such as smoking, excessive alcohol consumption, and a poor diet overall. Blaming seed oils ignores these larger contributors to oxidative damage. Eating a balanced diet rich in fruits, vegetables, and whole grains (which contain antioxidants) is far more important than avoiding seed oils.
Most dietary guidelines and international and European health bodies, including the World Health Organization and the European Society of Cardiology, recommend we aim to get less than 10% of our total daily energy from saturated fats (e.g., found in butter, palm oil, and coconut oil) to reduce our chronic disease risk and reductions should be achieved by replacing them with unsaturated fats, particularly polyunsaturated fats found in soybean, rapeseed (canola), corn, safflower, and sunflower oil.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:55 pm to
An article from two of the most corrupt health organizations in the world
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86187 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:59 pm to
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An article from two of the most corrupt health organizations in the world
I would easily believe that over blanket claim by one of the worst posters on a site filled with bad posters.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:07 pm to
Are you not in the least bit concerned about the way that they’re produced as opposed to cold pressed oils like olive oil and avocado oil that we’ve been eating long before the seed oil manufacturing process came along?

I’ve just always found it so odd how people have such strong reactions to others questioning seed oils.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35784 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:09 pm to
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I would easily believe that over blanket claim by one of the worst posters on a site filled with bad posters.


That’s an aggregation of a lot of data that I didn’t produce

Imagine knighting for seed oils because of who's sharing information.
Posted by tdme
Member since Jan 2022
276 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:57 pm to
olive oil and avocado oil are not seed oils.
Both are extracted from the fruit.

Seed oils are extracted from the seeds of plants, such as sunflower, soybean, and peanut oil.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62069 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:12 pm to
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olive oil and avocado oil are not seed oils.


Where did Mingo call those seed oils?
Posted by tdme
Member since Jan 2022
276 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:00 pm to
deeprig9 In the first post was saying that olive oil and avocado oil are seed oils.

They are not seed oils.

The whole discussion of seeds oils being good or bad doesn’t apply to them.
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