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Sausage making tips

Posted on 12/20/22 at 2:55 pm
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12337 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 2:55 pm
So I have gone down a rabbit hole and I want to make my own sausage, specifically andouille. While I am going through all the trouble of hanging, drying and cold smoking sausage I would like to try some others. Possibly jalapeno cheddar and some green onion sausage. Any tips. I plan on cold smoking in a campchef XXL smoker, so I have plenty of room. I am using a couple of smoke tubes.

I ordered some course grinding plates, 1/2" and 5/8". I think that will be big enough for the course ground part of the andouille. I plan to grind the fattier meat with one of the grinding plates I already have, they are all much smaller than what I ordered. I have a 3/4" stuffer tube and think I am just going to go with hog casings the first go around.

Looking for any and all advice.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:31 pm to
You’re cold smoking? What temperature are you planning to smoke and what internal temperature are you going to achieve.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9728 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:31 pm to
Get a dedicated sausage stuffer. I have a hand crank one and it works great and makes stuffing the sausage so much easier than using the grinder.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12337 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 4:38 pm to
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You’re cold smoking? What temperature are you planning to smoke and what internal temperature are you going to achieve.


I was going to shoot for 80 taking advantage of outdoor temps. I will hot smoke after the cold smoke. I guess I could skip that step but I thought I would try it out. I was looking at different methods and cold smoke, then a "warm smoke" at 140 to color then raise it to 175 to get it to a safe temp then let it cool for the fats to solidify before taking it out.

I have never done this, so I am just going by what I am reading. Time off around the holidays, ya know how things go.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 4:51 pm to
Gotcha. For smoked sausage, I suggest smoking at 170-220 and then raising temp if you need to at the end. I would not suggest a cold smoke, but if you’re reading an online instruction that tells you how, go for it. I could understand lower temps if you’re trying to do a super smoky andouille but definitely not for any other smoked sausage.

Make sure you use nitrite to cure (Prague powder, curing salt, etc).

The best suggestion I can offer, since it’s your first time, is to just smoke your first batch at 170-220 until you get an internal temp of 160. You may need to kick up the heat at the end to get it to the final temp. Pull it off and give it a cold water wash. Don’t try to get fancy on the first cook, just cook it. Then try fancier methods after that.

Enjoy the sausage making. Let us know how it comes out. Happy to share any knowledge or advice.
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18760 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

Get a dedicated sausage stuffer. I have a hand crank one and it works great and makes stuffing the sausage so much easier than using the grinder.


This. I struggle big time stuffing with a grinder.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8834 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

hot smoke after the cold smoke.

This is a good technique for imparting the assertive smoke flavor that Andouille is known for.

Definitely use hog casings.

Here's a thread with good info. LINK

Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:45 pm to
That thread leads me to offer another tip: don’t ever smoke sausage in a coil. Loop it or link it!
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12337 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:17 pm to
I will loop it! I have a hook rack for my smoker. I was considering drying it in the smoker too if weather allows. It’s a convenient box to use
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8834 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

another tip: don’t ever smoke sausage in a coil.

Thanks, like the many other invaluable tips you offer, I'll be sure to ignore this one as well.

P.S. just like your hot dog thread, you did not indicate whether you were using cure #1 or #2. For such an "expert", you sure do make a lot of novice mistakes.

Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:58 pm to
You’re the one who smokes andouille in a coil, bro, don’t take it out on me. Merry Christmas.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8834 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:34 pm to
I was working with what I had on hand.

Besides, there's absolutely nothing wrong with smoking sausage in a coil, if you know what you're doing, and I know what I'm doing.
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
8226 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

Get a dedicated sausage stuffer. I have a hand crank one and it works great and makes stuffing the sausage so much easier


This. I usually double grind my deer and single grind my pork. I found an awesome seasoning at a local grocery and use it yearly. Another thing to look into is high temp cheese to mix with the green onion.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23339 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 4:49 am to
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Old fashioned way to make andouille. Chop with a knife and use a cut funnel to stuff.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
50079 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:24 am to
Chud's BBQ on Youtube is a great resource


This is his video on Jalapeno & Cheese smoked sausage. I've done it with deer and it's incredible




Other tips:
- Rouse's will sell you the seasoning mix they use for their fresh sausages
- they also have casings available that do about 25#
- get a kitchen scale that goes down to grams
- a stuffing tube makes a world of difference, it's worth every penny+


some of my threads:
Deer Boudin


Smoked Sausage (I've gotten much better at the smoking process using an offset smoker)


Jalapeno & Cheese Summer Sausage


Deer heart & cheese bratswurst
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 6:27 am
Posted by haricot rouge
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2006
906 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:26 am to
I made a batch of andouille for the 1st time a few weeks ago. Very pleased with the results! I used a combination of several recipes from the LaPlace area and other cookbooks, keeping it simple like I remembered growing up.

Normally beef middle casings are used. I didn’t have that and used large hog casings 42-45 mm size. Got those from Walton’s. Normally the grind is done with a 3/4 (18 mm) grind disc. I used a 1/2 (12 mm) plate and got a good coarse grind.

10 lb of Boston Butt with most of back fat removed and saved for other recipes. Cut pork in to manageable chunks to fit in grinder. Partially froze the pork chunks and ground.

69 g salt, 15 g cayenne pepper, 10 g coarse black pepper, 2 g paprika, 3 tablespoons finely chopped fresh garlic, 2.6 tsp Cure, 2 cups cold water. I added a cup Soy Pro binder. No idea if the markets in LaPlace do that.

Mixed all and stuffed casings. Let links sit overnight in refrigerator to dry. Took out next morning and let them get to room temperature with a fan blowing on them for additional drying. Hung in smoker and cold/hot smoked for 11 hours, starting at 130 for an hour, 140 for 8 hours and between 170-190 gradually raising temp until internal temp reached 155. Placed in ice bath for a few minutes, dried off and refrigerated.

Have used it in gumbo, red beans and eaten a bunch just sliced on crackers.

Have primarily used pre made seasoning mixes for various fresh and smoked sausages. Fun and tasty hobby… Chud’s videos are great and I plan on trying some of the recipes soon.

Agree on the need for a dedicated stuffer. Makes it much easier. Keeping the meat and grinder/stuffer parts very cold also helps the process.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12337 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 12:35 pm to
Anyone have a recommendation of a stuffer? I think for this first time I am just going to use what I have but if it is that much better why not get a new tool.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 12:40 pm to
Stuffer

Any hand crank one will do. No need to get specific about brands or models. Find the size and the price you want.
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
8226 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:25 pm to
Whatever you do….DO NOT buy the sausage stuffer powered by a water hose. Seemed like a great idea at first…. Then you get in a rush and forget to turn the water valve off. Next thing you know, youve created a literal sausage cannon that blows 5lbs of ground deer meat all over the walls and ceiling in your kitchen…. Ask me how I know
Posted by RadRob
Acadiana
Member since Oct 2021
326 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:04 pm to
There's a video from a guy in Lafayette making it. Youtube=LINK
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