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re: Offset Vertical Smoker
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:48 pm to AgCoug
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:48 pm to AgCoug
All of you people claiming to have fuel sucking offsets compared to drum smokers, are you upset because they take a lot of charcoal to run? Why are you using charcoal in an offset?
A properly built offset is not hard to run.
A properly built offset is not hard to run.
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:06 pm to ruger35
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A properly built offset is not hard to run.
Post oak and pecan wood right?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:24 pm to ruger35
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All of you people claiming to have fuel sucking offsets
It was just one guy but go ahead and tell us all how bad arse your off set is
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:30 pm to heypaul
I've had both, a smaller Yoder Cheyenne when I first ventured into the offset world and that piece of junk almost made me quit the smoking game all together. They aren't set it and forget it like kamados or insulated vertical cabinets, but with practice they are not something you need a degree in BBQ to use.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:31 pm to Saskwatch
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It was just one guy but go ahead and tell us all how bad arse your off set is
Ironic your should say that, because I don't have one at the moment. I'm waiting on my new offset and Santa Maria grill to be built after selling my Evie Mae's pit. I'll be sure to keep you updated when it is finished though.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:35 pm to ruger35
A well made offset is really bad arse. I was interested to hear what you had and why you bought it.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:54 pm to Saskwatch
My apologies, I assume just about everything on here is sarcasm and an attack at someone for no reason. I saw the storm it created when I mentioned I only score the membrane in ribs anymore lol. Some of the attacks were pretty funny.
My newest offset is being built by Backline Fabrications/Smokers in Austin. I wanted a Moberg or one of Ryan's 250 gallon trailer pits, but didn't think it was reasonable unless I actually decided to open up a shop/trailer. This will be my first go round with an insulated firebox, but he uses the design originated by Austin Smoke Works with the large "elbow" coming from grate level for proper temp and draft control.
I've had LoneStar Grillz (2), Yoder, Shirley Fabrications trailer pit, most recently my reverse flow Evie Mae's, and now the Backline. If I were in the market for a new horizontal offset, it would definitely have a elbow/collector style exhaust at grate level, I'll never have a small door front loading rounded firebox again. Check the height of the firebox to the cooking chamber. Look at the top rack height vs distance to cooking chamber and the clearance. Ran into that on my last pit, too rack was essentially useless except for sausages or hot dogs. Single door only up to 60". And wheels, never thought casters would make a difference but after multiple pits they do. Backline builds competition carts that pull extremely easy and use regular tires.
I love BBQ if that wasn't obvious by this huge TLDR post.b
My newest offset is being built by Backline Fabrications/Smokers in Austin. I wanted a Moberg or one of Ryan's 250 gallon trailer pits, but didn't think it was reasonable unless I actually decided to open up a shop/trailer. This will be my first go round with an insulated firebox, but he uses the design originated by Austin Smoke Works with the large "elbow" coming from grate level for proper temp and draft control.
I've had LoneStar Grillz (2), Yoder, Shirley Fabrications trailer pit, most recently my reverse flow Evie Mae's, and now the Backline. If I were in the market for a new horizontal offset, it would definitely have a elbow/collector style exhaust at grate level, I'll never have a small door front loading rounded firebox again. Check the height of the firebox to the cooking chamber. Look at the top rack height vs distance to cooking chamber and the clearance. Ran into that on my last pit, too rack was essentially useless except for sausages or hot dogs. Single door only up to 60". And wheels, never thought casters would make a difference but after multiple pits they do. Backline builds competition carts that pull extremely easy and use regular tires.
I love BBQ if that wasn't obvious by this huge TLDR post.b
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:31 pm to ruger35
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Backline
Checked their web site. Very cool looking little rigs. I had no idea that they had custom builders making smaller sizes like that. Generally you see them as big pull behind trailers or stationary units.
You're not alone on scoring the membrane.
*My scaling was off. Originally I thought these were a bit bigger than a heavy duty yard cart. These seem a bit bigger but still able to move around by one or two people.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:24 am to heypaul
I love my barrel smoker. I built one similar to Spridermantuba. It's stupid easy to run and makes a great final product. It's also very versatile because I have adjustable racks in there. All in I was somewhere around $125. It took a little elbow grease to get the original food-safe coating ground down.
Posted on 3/19/20 at 9:56 am to LCA131
Here’s a few pictures of mine , with some bonus food photos. This was one of the first ones that my coworker and i built. Knowing what we know know, much easier process and simple changes. At first we were welding everything , now no time much welding and more bolt on items. Don’t use matte paint, def go with gloss. 
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 10:12 am
Posted on 3/19/20 at 11:23 am to Yukon7
I'd check out an Oklahoma Joe Bronco if they still have them around. Essentially a drum smoker but nice entry price point of less than $200.
Posted on 3/19/20 at 1:58 pm to ruger35
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nice entry price point of less than $200.
Unless you are lucky enough to find a Walmart with some leftover from the fire sale around new years then they are $299. Still a good price point considering it comes with everything needed right out of the box.
Academy will only sell them as completed units so you will want to check all the fittings before you roll it out. Lowes also deals them but neither ones I went had any in stock.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:05 pm to AgCoug
I bought one of these Masterbuilt 560's last weekend and man, I'm impressed. Like sell my Yoder impressed. I've smoked a pork butt and beef ribs so far and the smoke flavor of using real wood vs pellets is unreal. This is similar to a pellet grill, set it and forget it. Add a wood chuck every 30 or 45 minutes and you've got some killer smoked meat. It's got WIFI and Bluetooth and holds temperature better than the Yoder. 
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:27 am to OSoBad
That is a beautiful piece of machinery.
I couldn’t find a vertical offset I liked so I’m smoking a pork butt and brisket on my horizontal this morning. Hoping the rain stays away.
I couldn’t find a vertical offset I liked so I’m smoking a pork butt and brisket on my horizontal this morning. Hoping the rain stays away.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 6:29 am
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:57 am to Yukon7
I own a traditional offset and though it takes time and patience, the quality of food is worth it. I have a great supply of wood, and really, wood isn't ever hard to find if you know where to look. The investment of an offset is what discourages people. It isn't cheap.
I've been looking at the pit barrels for use at the fishing camp and at home when I cant dedicate time to monitor temps. I've heard great reviews and can made wood chucks from my own supply. I wouldn't mind firing it up for a quick ribs or chicken cook.
Thank you for sharing the pictures.
I've been looking at the pit barrels for use at the fishing camp and at home when I cant dedicate time to monitor temps. I've heard great reviews and can made wood chucks from my own supply. I wouldn't mind firing it up for a quick ribs or chicken cook.
Thank you for sharing the pictures.
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