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re: Not so great food cities

Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by splastiko
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:31 pm to
Nashville? or is it just me? if anyone knows any really good stand out spots, let me know!
Posted by glassman
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:31 pm to
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with your stance on all things New Orleans




which is?


Frustration for the most part. Correct, Tigre?
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:32 pm to
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i do like many things about the city.


We know...Portland, baby, Portland!
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:32 pm to
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But, i don't look down on a restaurant or a city b/c it doesn't meet one specific parameter. I tend to look for "good" combined with value.


I think this is more than just one specific parameter, though. And I really take issue with the notion that it is somehow an "elitist" notion, to feel like I want to go to a place where I have some idea that the person putting out what he/she is serving me feels passionate about what they are doing. It's hard to say that about many places, if any, in Baton Rouge, no?
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:32 pm to
Nashville...I think its a bit overrrated...

I like Germantown Cafe, Sole Mio, and Cafe margot.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:32 pm to
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They try so hard to be inventive and cutting edge, but just can't keep up with the big boys. The national scene will continue to pat N.O. chefs on the head, give them a nice write-up, come and visit so they can get a photo op in a shitty neighborhood, get their freak on for a night or two and beat a hasty retreat back to the airport. Food in New Orleans continues to be and always will be a cliche'.



Posted by el tigre
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:34 pm to
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I want to go to a place where I have some idea that the person putting out what he/she is serving me feels passionate about what they are doing.



which is far from synonymous with the chef owned concept you described.

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nd I really take issue with the notion that it is somehow an "elitist" notion,


just look at the restaurants you listed. What % of NOLA locals can actually afford to experience these places with any regularity?
Posted by BigAlBR
Member since Jun 2008
5099 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:34 pm to
If only Besh could have cooked that egg correctly.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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109737 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:36 pm to
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I want to go to a place where I have some idea that the person putting out what he/she is serving me feels passionate about what they are doing.





which is far from synonymous with the chef owned concept you described.


How so? I said owned or operated, and I explicitly pointed out I didn't care how the chef was trained. I just like the notion that there is at least a relatively consistent person overseeing the procurement and preparation of the food who actually gives a frick about what he's putting out every night.

How many places in BR can you say that about?
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:37 pm to
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Food in New Orleans continues to be and always will be a cliche'.


This has not been true since the 1980's...certainly not Post-K...Domenica, La Boca, Rio Mar, A Mano, Coquette, Vizard's, Boucherie, Stella!, MiLa....things are not cliche anymore.

The opening of Upperline, Gautreau's and the like changed what food is in NOLA....I think since 2000 and specifically after K we have embraced other types of cuisines...NOLA has experienced a food revolution in my lifetime...we are smack dab in the middle of it right now.
Posted by el tigre
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:37 pm to
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Frustration for the most part. Correct, Tigre?


absolutely, well was when i lived there. SO SLOW to change or progress. Now, not my problem so i don't really care as much at all. If i ever move back to La it will prob be to New Orleans, so i will prob get frustrated again unless it changes.

But, the retards (not you) that excuse every fault of the city, put down other cities, and claim they are the "best" in all kinds of random shite still make me cringe.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20032 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:39 pm to
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Now, not my problem so i don't really care as much at all.



Thank God I don't post as much as you about shite I don't care about.
Posted by el tigre
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Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:39 pm to
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I explicitly pointed out I didn't care how the chef was trained


when you say "chef" i was taking it to mean a classically trained "chef" generally cooking higher priced food inaccessible to a lot of the population.
Posted by BigAlBR
Member since Jun 2008
5099 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:39 pm to
I realize that you may see this locally, but for the majority of people outside of N.O., it remains a cliche'.
Posted by glassman
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Member since Oct 2008
117865 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:40 pm to
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just look at the restaurants you listed. What % of NOLA locals can actually afford to experience these places with any regularity?


The places I listed, besides Commander's are certainly supported much more by locals than tourists. So I would say plenty. Look, people like spending disposable income on eating out in NO. Always have and always will.
Posted by el tigre
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:40 pm to
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Thank God I don't post as much as you about shite I don't care about.


if you notice more of my posts are now just mocking/quizzing the flock of NOLA lemmings rather than seriously addressing the issues of the city.
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:41 pm to
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I realize that you may see this locally, but for the majority of people outside of N.O., it remains a cliche'.



it is definitely true.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20032 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:42 pm to
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I realize that you may see this locally, but for the majority of people outside of N.O., it remains a cliche'.


But to those who give a flying frick about food, like yourself, should know better.

I have met over a dozen people in town from the NYC area recently...several of them told me the post-K NOLA food scene is the all the buzz in the NYC foodie social circles. The list of places that these people knew about and had researched floored me.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20032 posts
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:43 pm to
Butcher
American Sector

two prime examples of chefs giving a shite at a cheap place as well...
Posted by el tigre
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:43 pm to
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The places I listed, besides Commander's are certainly supported much more by locals than tourists.


right, and generally by the upper tiers of income/status of the city. Not saying that's bad, but i always wonder why people are so quick to dismiss plate lunch/sandwich/cheap eats places when grading a food scene.
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