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re: My Pizza Dough Always Turns Out Tough
Posted on 12/29/22 at 11:02 am to auwaterfowler
Posted on 12/29/22 at 11:02 am to auwaterfowler
quote:try going 120 minutes to 3 or 4 hours if possible. Just keep an eye on the fermentation. Don't want the dough to over ferment.
Take dough balls out of refrigerator 60-90 minutes before using.
quote:are you sure you're not mistaking chewy for tough?
To me, it seems perfect, and then it’s tough once done.
A bit of chew is good for that style of pizza.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 11:21 am to auwaterfowler
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Dissolve salt and yeast in 95 degree water.
This might be your issue, depending on the yeast, the salt could be killing it off.
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Let sit for 20 minutes. Knead dough and let sit for 2 hours.
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Make dough balls and refrigerate for 18-24 hours.
There are many different methods of dough handling. But it is also possible that letting the dough sit out and then cooling it, if the yeast is still good, it could be consuming a majority of the sugars in the dough before you get around to cooking it.
For our method, we strive to get the dough balled and in the cooler in less than 20 minutes, cross stack the dough for 1.5 hours to allow it to cool down and allow condensation to escape from the containers. Then close the dough up for overnight up to 3 days.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 11:32 am to Emteein
Yes, I’m probably being overly critical, as I mentioned earlier, but the dough really is tough compared to what I get at good wood-fired pizza joints that I go to. I would like to figure out how to make it nice and crispy on the bottom and then be a bit chewy throughout the rest of the crust.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 11:34 am to auwaterfowler
Here is another variable that I forgot to mention: I parbake my crusts in a 400 degree oven for 3 minutes or so to get it where I can easily slide off the peel onto my stone after all the toppings are added. I’ve read that this is acceptable and shouldn’t affect the final product, but I’m wondering…
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:02 pm to auwaterfowler
quote:No sugar?
Dissolve salt and yeast in 95 degree water. Add flour and hand mix just until mixed (dough temp after mixing is around 80 degrees). Let sit for 20 minutes. Knead dough and let sit for 2 hours.
edit: here's my recipe reduced to match your batch size.
500g 00 flour caputo
300g water
1.5g dry active yeast
15g kosher salt
24g oil
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 12/29/22 at 12:08 pm to auwaterfowler
I don’t add salt til after the dough rests about 30 minute after the initial mix. Think salting the water may be throwing off the dough
Try adding 14g of diastatic malt powder to your flour and yeast in the bowl, then the water, and give it a mix. Rest the covered dough for 30 min, then add 19g kosher salt and give it another quick mix
I used to temp the water and activate the yeast and all that, I’ve had better results throwing it all in there at once with room temp water
Try adding 14g of diastatic malt powder to your flour and yeast in the bowl, then the water, and give it a mix. Rest the covered dough for 30 min, then add 19g kosher salt and give it another quick mix
I used to temp the water and activate the yeast and all that, I’ve had better results throwing it all in there at once with room temp water
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:05 pm to auwaterfowler
Are you using dry yeast or live yeast?
If you are temping water to 95 degree and using dry yeast, then the temp might not be hot enough to activate and fully develop. Hot water between 105 and 115 is ideal for proofing dry yeast.
Sounds like you are going to have to experiment with trial and error. Suggests of moisture others have given could be the culprit too. Pics look great though.
If you are temping water to 95 degree and using dry yeast, then the temp might not be hot enough to activate and fully develop. Hot water between 105 and 115 is ideal for proofing dry yeast.
Sounds like you are going to have to experiment with trial and error. Suggests of moisture others have given could be the culprit too. Pics look great though.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:52 pm to bratch40
I had a similar problem recently making a Detroit style dough that I’ve made 20 different times with great success and suddenly got no spring and the crust was extremely tough.
Turns out, my yeast was dead. I had bought a couple pounds of yeast in 2020 when you couldn’t rely on it being on shelves and had a bit left but I tossed it and got new yeast and haven’t had an issue with any pizza or bread since.
Turns out, my yeast was dead. I had bought a couple pounds of yeast in 2020 when you couldn’t rely on it being on shelves and had a bit left but I tossed it and got new yeast and haven’t had an issue with any pizza or bread since.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:34 pm to 3oliv3
Is there a way to test my yeast to see if it’s dead? The can says it’s well within date, and I keep it in the refrigerator, but who knows.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 4:43 pm to auwaterfowler
If it’s bubbling and smelling yeasty it should be good still
Posted on 12/29/22 at 8:45 pm to auwaterfowler
Based on your recipe I assume you’re getting it from Ken Forkish’s Element of Pizza. He has videos on YouTube that may be worth watching.
I was having similar problems and realized I was using the wrong yeast. I have switched to the correct yeast and increased the amount of yeast in my dough as well.
I was having similar problems and realized I was using the wrong yeast. I have switched to the correct yeast and increased the amount of yeast in my dough as well.
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 12/29/22 at 8:54 pm to auwaterfowler
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Here is another variable that I forgot to mention: I parbake my crusts in a 400 degree oven for 3 minutes or so to get it where I can easily slide off the peel onto my stone after all the toppings are added.
You shouldn't need to do this.
I agree with others that I wouldn't shape it with a rolling pin. That's more for Roman style pizza and will result in a more cracker style crust.
Here is Forkish shaping dough by hand: LINK
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 8:58 pm
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