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Making a Roasted Chicken Stock

Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:09 pm
I got started a little late today, but I just finished roasting backs, necks, wings, carrots, onions and celery for a stock. I roasted most of the chicken until golden because that's the flavor I'm going for. What you see is about halfway up a 22 quart pot, so I'm thinking I could have a pretty strong flavored result.

How long would you simmer this much? I'm going to simmer tomorrow since I just finished getting it all in and I'm heating the pans to get deglaze right now.



Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:13 pm to
IMO, it's hard to over simmer. I'd let her go 4 hours or so. If it's rich, that just means you get more bang for your stock buck.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:13 pm to
About an hour and a half. There should be very little fat to skim and the stock should be almost as dark as a beef stock. The French method Gris.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

About an hour and a half.


Even with as many bones and pieces as I have in that pot? I want every single delightful bit of flavor to be in that stock. The chicken roasted beautifully, but I don't expect it to be as dark as a beef stock. I don't want it that dark which is why I roasted the chicken until just golden and crispy and not much darker. Plenty of fond I'm about to get to.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:18 pm to
I did one last year for @ 36 hours. It was a helluva good stock.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:21 pm to
The raw material there is going to produce something fantastic.

I'd say 45 minutes.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:21 pm to
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but I don't expect it to be as dark as a beef stock


It will be from the roasted bones and vegetables. Trust me. My grandmother was a ridiculously great cook. It is her recipe I follow. She and my grandfather had an apartment in Paris for almost 30 years and spent six weeks every summer there. She went to the Cordon Bleu five days a week. Not sure what he did.
Posted by Miz Piggy
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:26 pm to
I know this is a bit off topic, but I'm not sure it deserves it's own thread. I've got a chicken that's been in the freezer for probably almost 2 years. Vacuum sealed, never been thawed...safe to use for a stock? Thought about throwing it in next time I make one. Figured it was OK, but wanted to get input.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:32 pm to
I don't see a problem. But, I haven't ever had something that long in the freezer.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:39 pm to
Safety-wise, she's fine. Taste-wise, give it a shot. I'm suspecting it's just fine.
Posted by Miz Piggy
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:40 pm to
Not sure how it happened...got shoved to the bottom underneath some stuff. Local, free range bird too.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:44 pm to
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Local, free range bird too.
Yeah, it's a shame. It's definitely worth the shot.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:51 pm to
I'd give it a shot. Vac sealing does wonders to frozen food. I've found plenty in my freezers nearly that old that hides behind things, even when I clean the thing out several times a year. I always miss something or leave it in thinking I'll use it and then it ages.

I'm going to need to reduce this stock a good bit for the freezer. I freeze A LOT this time of year and when I cleaned out the freezers a few weeks ago, I didn't throw away as much as I thought I would.

I've made stocks plenty of times, but not with as many chicken pieces as I have this time. I bought every pack of necks and backs in the store that had just been put out, in addition to a few packs of wings.
Posted by Miz Piggy
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:54 pm to
I'm the fairly new owner of a pressure canner, so I'm going to can my next chicken and shrimp stocks. Even with 3 freezers, space is still at a premium!
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:56 pm to
I'd go AT LEAST 1 full hour. Probably 2 - 3 hours. I'd also leave out the carrots, onions and celery. I like a pure stock. I can add those flavors in when I cook the actual dish. But that's just me.
Posted by Miz Piggy
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 7:58 pm to
BTW, how long did you roast those parts? Did you add any fat before roasting?
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:06 pm to
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I'd also leave out the carrots, onions and celery.


Normally, I don't add those because I make pure stocks since I'm not sure what the use will be, but for this one, I'm making some soup with some of it, so I'm going to leave it in. I'm not using much, though, and not many carrots. Generally, I find they make my stocks sweeter than I care for.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 10/21/12 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

BTW, how long did you roast those parts? Did you add any fat before roasting?


No fat. there's plenty of skin on those pieces. I roasted two huge foil pans (the size for those steaming trays at Sam's) at 450 for close to two hours. I turned them pieces after the tops were good and golden to get the backs, as well. I added the vegetables after the turn.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 7:19 am to
If someone tells you 45 minutes you will have dirty water. That someone would be wrong. I simmer mine for the day and if I have time I have used the Otis two day method. The longer it simmers the better.

So carrots make it sweet? I never knew that.
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