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re: Louisiana vs Zatarans vs any other

Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:25 pm to
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I have found that most places that sell crawfish make their own seasoning. These will beat the store bought seasonings

True, I buy from a friend of mine and it comes in 20 lbs bags.
Posted by paynintheboat
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Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:25 pm to
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who doesnt soak??? gtfo


yankees
Posted by andouille
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Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:26 pm to
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Thats why I put it on here... I can't relate to the 5 star chefs over there.


LOL, the vast majority of F&D poster are YDFOC's comparing notes on the latest at Taco Bell, or "who has the best pizza in BR".

Zatarains, easily, to me at least.

Sprinkle & steam is an alternative if you have no idea of what you are doing and don't care if the end product tastes like.
This post was edited on 3/23/09 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:26 pm to
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who doesnt soak???


Unfortunately I have seen this...

Soak 'em.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:46 pm to
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Louisiana is the best, but the most important contraversy is soak vs shake/steam.

I've had shake/steam many times and it was very freakin good. I like how it basically encrusts the crawfish with the seasoning, but I can't explain how the seasoning permeates the meat so well.

But I still do traditional boil/soak.
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:48 pm to
luckily, i've never seen this "shake and steam" technique and have thus not had the need keep my pimp hand strong.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:48 pm to
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yankees

I've known some pretty old school South La people use this method.

My impression is that some restaurants use it as well because you don't have to use as much seasoning.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:50 pm to
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luckily, i've never seen this "shake and steam" technique and have thus not had the need keep my pimp hand strong.

I thought the same thing, but the finished product proved me wrong. But as I said, personally, I still boil.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
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40573 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:51 pm to
The shake and steam just seasons your fingers while you eat.IMO

Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 2:53 pm to
Shake and steam is the real deal, but I still soak em. The shake and steam method is used so the crawfish NEVER get boiled. They dump em right when the first bit of steam comes from the pot. Supposively, if done right, the steam method produced a better meat texture. It's not really about the seasoning. I'm not a fan of crusty seasoning gettng all over me, like the Jungle used to do.
Posted by andouille
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Posted on 3/23/09 at 3:04 pm to
Shake & Steam: Had it, hate it.

A vendor we use has a party next Friday, they do the shake & steam, I'm not going. You get more seasoning on your fingers than you get in your mouth. It is done for one reason, it saves a lot of $$$.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/23/09 at 3:11 pm to
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It is done for one reason, it saves a lot of $$$.


Not by the people I know. Seasoning on the outside has been done for years, and it saves money/sucks. The steam method is done by hardcore crawfish cookers who want a more tender meat. They swear by boiling the crawfish at all that you damage the delicate meat. I've seen people boil them and use an icechest to steam/keep warm with seasoning. Again, this is different. The real shake steam method is done without ever boiling the crawfish.
Posted by andouille
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Posted on 3/23/09 at 3:19 pm to
I would have to taste a better version than the ones I've had, they have been awful. The same company did it last year and they had a lot of leftovers, and it was done by a catering outfit.

I'm about as sensitive at a callous and it makes my hands and face burn and you better use tongs to take a leak.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40573 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 3:20 pm to
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I've seen people boil them and use an icechest to steam/keep warm with while adding seasoning to the outside


This is what I was calling the shake and steam...
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 3:29 pm to
Whats funny is that a large group of people that answered your question here also would have been the ones answering it on the Food Board.

BTW I always find Louisiana to be saltier than Zats.. I use the Zats Extra Spicy. The seasoning is a big key but the preperation and soaking procedure is the biggest difference between avg and great crawfish.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 3:31 pm to
Some seasoning mixtures will break down in the steam so you dont have the crust. Many commercial places use this method but customers do not know since it breaks down almost completly.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 3:38 pm to
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Not by the people I know. Seasoning on the outside has been done for years, and it saves money/sucks. The steam method is done by hardcore crawfish cookers who want a more tender meat. They swear by boiling the crawfish at all that you damage the delicate meat. I've seen people boil them and use an icechest to steam/keep warm with seasoning. Again, this is different. The real shake steam method is done without ever boiling the crawfish.
Not to mention you save a shitload of propane.

I boil. But I wouldn't mind learning the steam method just to try it myself and see.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58306 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 3:54 pm to
I have done both. And if you steam them correctly the basic person wont tell the difference. It all depends how much i have to cook to which method i choose. Steaming i can put out way more in a certain amount of time.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 4:07 pm to
If you do it right then you should boil for a very short time then KILL the cooking by throwing ice in the water then you let the crawfish soak. Many people skip the ice step and even though they stopped the fire the crawfish are still cooking far too long in residual heat.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/23/09 at 4:13 pm to
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If you do it right then you should boil for a very short time then KILL the cooking by throwing ice in the water then you let the crawfish soak. Many people skip the ice step and even though they stopped the fire the crawfish are still cooking far too long in residual heat.

I boil for about 10 and soak for about 15, without adding ice, although i do add some frozen corn.

I haven't had any notable problems with overcooking.
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