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re: Is the 3-2-1 method for ribs too long?

Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Day Wisher
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2010
400 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:28 am to
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Worst advice ever! If you wrapped your ribs and they came out dry, wrapping was not the issue.


A lot of people take BBQ very seriously. Probably too seriously! Those "nuts" don't wrap. It's okay for the competition "look at me" types, but not for the true BBQ traditionalists. Most of those competition guys have a lot of issues with traditionalists, but they've got a lot of problems in general which aren't worth getting into as that nonsense has been thoroughly documented over the years.

Posted by Day Wisher
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2010
400 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:31 am to
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Now run along newb.


I didn't realize those were your ribs. They look fine so don't get discouraged by my comment. The last thing I want to do is turn people away from pursuing BBQ as a passion. Just remember, if you keep working at it you'll only get better and better results with time. Best of luck!

Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1578 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:15 pm to
I smoke mine unwrapped for 4 to 4 1/2 hours at 250. At the 3 hour point I put on Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ sauce. I use to do the wrapped method, but it is very messy if you spill the juices when you unwrap them.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31091 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:43 pm to
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you can see how wrapping can really dry a rib out.


Overcooking a rib dries it out. Or buying a rack that's overly lean.

All other things remaining the same, wrapping will not dry the ribs out.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31091 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:45 pm to
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He cuts the rack into thirds bolis them in spices


That's how you make soup.

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Bulls Eye


Now i think you might be trolling.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7337 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:51 pm to
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All other things remaining the same, wrapping will not dry the ribs out.



I’m not sure that guy understands that it’s essentially just steaming in its own juices keeping it moist the whole way
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31091 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:54 pm to
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I’m not sure that guy understands that it’s essentially just steaming in its own juices keeping it moist the whole way


Yeah, I was going to say that, and was going to ask how wrapping dries it out vs. not wrapping, but figured it wasn't worth it.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
103023 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:15 pm to
#neversauce
Posted by weaveballs1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
3037 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 1:48 am to
For babybacks? I'm a traditionalist and fully believe in keeping it simple. No sauce, no wrap, maybe a spritz of acv every once in a while but that's it. I'm not messing up the bark I've worked to achieve. They're done when the bend test says they're done, normally about 3-4 hrs @ 250.
Posted by LsuSaints57
The Sip
Member since Oct 2019
359 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:31 am to
Soup Wtf are you talking about. BOILING helps with getting them tender. Wtf bashing Bulls Eye! Ill put his up against your any day of week. Just because he doesn't do it like you why have a smart arse comment. On God your aa Bitch!!!
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
2199 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:14 am to
I've never wrapped my ribs. My favorite BBQ joints where I like to get ribs don't wrap theirs, so I figure why wrap mine? Anyways I don't like opening up my smoker once I get my temp dialed in. I usually like how mine turn out, but I've never been in a competition so I guess I don't know how good they actually are. Never had any complaints though.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
103023 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:23 am to
You just proved the man's point with this unhinged violent response. Like he said, be patient with yourself, keep trying and your que will improve over time.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9713 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:29 am to
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traditionalists


What is a BBQ "traditionalist"? Let's start there....
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136798 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:29 am to
I bet the losers in this thread pull the membranes also. Scoring them is obviously the superior method.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31091 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:18 am to
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BOILING helps with getting them tender.


Boiling cooks the flavorful juices right out of the meat. Does he boil his prime rib before putting it in the oven as well? What about his steaks and chicken?

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No pitmaster, even one of middling repute, would be caught dead submerging their meats into a pot of boiling water, for at least two very good reasons: 1) while parboiling does soften up meat until it achieves a fall-off-the-bone state, it can also leave it gooey, and 2) it depletes the meat of flavorful fats, which is not good. Boiling water, after all, is for potatoes and shrimp and noodles and eggs and, as we’ve learned from so many westerns, frontier baby delivery. “Hey, y’all want to come over for a rib boil?” Nobody would ever say this. And if anyone did ever say this, the authorities would likely be called. The fine and honorable people who toil over their pits and cookers for hours upon hours upon hours are known as pitmasters, not potmasters.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 9:21 am
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 10:30 am to
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No pitmaster, even one of middling repute, would be caught dead su


Unless is a sous vide
Posted by Day Wisher
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2010
400 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 11:39 am to
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What is a BBQ "traditionalist"? Let's start there....


A BBQ traditionalist is someone who cooks with a minimum of technology involved. It's time, temperature, proper wood selection for meat/cut, proper smoke applied cooked in a basic set-up (no ceramic cookers unless homemade, no foil crutch, no plastic coolers, no sous vide, etc.) It is hugely challenging but rewarding.



eta: There are a few BBQ traditionalists who are hyper aggressive about their superiority over "BBQueers" (a ridiculous term typically used for electric smoker/Green Egg/Competition types), but if you look around online you can find many mentors that are genial and helpful. Ignore the jerks and there is a world of interesting information out there. Good luck!
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 11:46 am
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31091 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:25 am to
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Unless is a sous vide


Vacuum packing the meat and submerging is not the same as boiling, and i feel a like a sous vide of the meat and them finishing on the smoker is also weird.
Posted by PhishyTiger
Collierville
Member since Jul 2016
184 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 5:11 am to
From what others have said here and elsewhere online, it appears that 221 is preferred for baby backs. That makes sense since they’re smaller than spare ribs in most cases.

As far as wrapping goes, that’s a preference. From my experiencing, when cooking at 250 or higher, I’ll plan to wrap them. Otherwise, I’ll let them ride out in that 225 range with more spritzing.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21916 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 5:26 am to
For baby backs yes. I go 2-1.5-.5.
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