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re: Is a hot dog a sandwich? Present your case.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:04 am to Epic Cajun
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:04 am to Epic Cajun
I agree with this guy:
sauce
This and only this is a sandwich
posted by Tim Carmody Jun 15, 2016
In today’s post on “What is barbecue?” I skipped past “is a hot dog a sandwich?” so quickly that I forgot to answer the question. So in the same spirit in which someone can boldly declare that only smoked, slow-cooked pork is barbecue, here is my minimal definition of a sandwich:
A sandwich is any solid or semi-solid filling between two or more slices of bread. Not a roll, not a wrap, not a leaf of lettuce: sliced bread. What is inside far less than the container.
Consequently:
A hot dog is not a sandwich.
A burrito is not a sandwich.
A wrap is not a sandwich.
A cheeseburger on a roll is not a sandwich. Sliced bread only.
A lobster roll is not a sandwich.
A hoagie is not a sandwich.
An ice cream sandwich is not a sandwich.
A hot turkey sandwich is not a sandwich.
An open-faced sandwich is not a sandwich.
If you make a sandwich using one end of the bread and one proper slice, it’s kind of a sandwich still, but not really. See also folding over a single slice of bread for a half-sandwich.
If you make a sandwich using both ends of the bread, it is no longer a sandwich at all.
A peanut butter or grilled cheese sandwich is a sandwich.
A mayonnaise, butter, or ketchup sandwich is probably a sandwich — I’m not sure whether those fillings are solid enough — just not a very good one.
A sandwich made with crackers instead of bread is not a sandwich, but an imitation of a sandwich.
A sandwich made with crackers between two slices of bread is a sandwich, but not a very good one.
sauce
This and only this is a sandwich
posted by Tim Carmody Jun 15, 2016
In today’s post on “What is barbecue?” I skipped past “is a hot dog a sandwich?” so quickly that I forgot to answer the question. So in the same spirit in which someone can boldly declare that only smoked, slow-cooked pork is barbecue, here is my minimal definition of a sandwich:
A sandwich is any solid or semi-solid filling between two or more slices of bread. Not a roll, not a wrap, not a leaf of lettuce: sliced bread. What is inside far less than the container.
Consequently:
A hot dog is not a sandwich.
A burrito is not a sandwich.
A wrap is not a sandwich.
A cheeseburger on a roll is not a sandwich. Sliced bread only.
A lobster roll is not a sandwich.
A hoagie is not a sandwich.
An ice cream sandwich is not a sandwich.
A hot turkey sandwich is not a sandwich.
An open-faced sandwich is not a sandwich.
If you make a sandwich using one end of the bread and one proper slice, it’s kind of a sandwich still, but not really. See also folding over a single slice of bread for a half-sandwich.
If you make a sandwich using both ends of the bread, it is no longer a sandwich at all.
A peanut butter or grilled cheese sandwich is a sandwich.
A mayonnaise, butter, or ketchup sandwich is probably a sandwich — I’m not sure whether those fillings are solid enough — just not a very good one.
A sandwich made with crackers instead of bread is not a sandwich, but an imitation of a sandwich.
A sandwich made with crackers between two slices of bread is a sandwich, but not a very good one.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 11:05 am
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:07 am to Martini
quote:
It's called a flop over
Yeah, the only time a flop over is going near anyone's mouth is in a gay porn flick
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:07 am to Epic Cajun
quote:
IMO, a sandwich is a type of food where bread is basically a deliver 'vehicle' for some sort of other type of food (meat, vegetables, etc...)
is a taco or a gyro a sandwich then?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:11 am to t00f
Disagree. The end of a piece of bread is still a slice of that loaf of bread. A roll has to be sliced to accommodate a cheeseburger. Same with a hot dog. The degree of a cut of bread doesn't seem like it should be the linchpin on whether something is a sandwich or not.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 11:34 am
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:14 am to Dire Wolf
quote:
is a taco or a gyro a sandwich then?
They are essentially that culture's version of a sandwich.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:20 am to t00f
I am enjoying this thread far more than I was expecting to
Anyway, I feel like I should take a stab at my own definition of a sandwich:
A sandwich is any solid or semi-solid filling (I like that part of Mr. Carmody's definition) between leavened bread such that it may be eaten by hand and the final preparation must leave at least some portion of the filling visually exposed.
Does that mean a sliced Monte Cristo is a sandwich but an unsliced Monte Cristo is not? Yes, yes it does.
Anyway, I feel like I should take a stab at my own definition of a sandwich:
A sandwich is any solid or semi-solid filling (I like that part of Mr. Carmody's definition) between leavened bread such that it may be eaten by hand and the final preparation must leave at least some portion of the filling visually exposed.
Does that mean a sliced Monte Cristo is a sandwich but an unsliced Monte Cristo is not? Yes, yes it does.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:32 am to Joshjrn
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:40 am to t00f
I thought about a formulation that included "...the final preparation, sans slicing, must leave..."
But I enjoyed the absurdity of the slicing bit more. Also, it hurt my feelings to have the vaunted Monte Cristo barred from sandwichhood. With that said, I reserve the right to come to my senses at a later date
But I enjoyed the absurdity of the slicing bit more. Also, it hurt my feelings to have the vaunted Monte Cristo barred from sandwichhood. With that said, I reserve the right to come to my senses at a later date
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:16 pm to Honky Lips
My case stolen from the interwebz......
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:20 pm to Honky Lips
No stupid, next question?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:27 pm to TigerBait2008
When we ran out of buns, my dad used to take 2 hot dogs cut in half and use 2 pieces of white bread.
So, what is that? Hot dog sandwich?
(Why he didn't just fold one piece in half like I do now is a mystery upon itself.
So, what is that? Hot dog sandwich?
(Why he didn't just fold one piece in half like I do now is a mystery upon itself.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:28 pm to Notro
A pop-tart is a sandwich, , that says it all.
, that says it all.Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:36 pm to t00f
quote:
A pop-tart is a sandwich, , that says it all.
Does not use leavened bread. Fails my definition
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:42 pm to Notro
Your chart/image begs the question: What is the difference in a wrap and a burrito?
ETA: Where do pizza rolls fall on the scale?
ETA: Where do pizza rolls fall on the scale?
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:08 pm to baldona
quote:
When we ran out of buns, my dad used to take 2 hot dogs cut in half and use 2 pieces of white bread.
So, what is that? Hot dog sandwich?
That's some deep shite right there
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:14 pm to Honky Lips
quote:
So, what is that? Hot dog sandwich?
wiener sandwich
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:21 pm to JScoop8
quote:
If you make a turkey burger, why wouldn't you just call it a turkey sandwich?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:30 pm to t00f
I don't know why, but I love this thread.
I would not consider a hot dog a sandwich, just on practical use of the term. If I said name me 10 sandwiches, I would be willing to bet nobody in a 10 person panel would say hot dog.
Your link goes too far, though. I would consider a sandwich made of the two end pieces still a sandwich, as I would a hot turkey and a hoagie or poboy.
I would not consider a hot dog a sandwich, just on practical use of the term. If I said name me 10 sandwiches, I would be willing to bet nobody in a 10 person panel would say hot dog.
Your link goes too far, though. I would consider a sandwich made of the two end pieces still a sandwich, as I would a hot turkey and a hoagie or poboy.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:35 pm to GRTiger
You sure about that GR. And yeah, this thread cracks me up.
Hot Turkey:
Hot Turkey:
Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:43 pm to t00f
frick that. Hot turkey is definitely not a sandwich
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