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re: I'm beginning to catch on to the criticism of the BR food scene

Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:41 am to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103513 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:41 am to
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Have you tried any of the following:
Oscar's YES
Maxwell's YES
Alexander's NO
Zealand St YES
Po'Boy Loyde's YES
Bergeron's NO
Leroy's YES
Breck's Bistro NO
LA Bayou Bistro NO
Omi YES
Parrains YES
La Tiendita YES
La Morinita NO
Frank's Restaurant YES
Anthony's YES
Tony's Seafood YES
Delpit's YES
Doe's Eat Place YES
Y'vette Marie's NO
Nino's YES
Gino's YES
Thai Kitchen NO
Marinas NO
Druscillas YES
Pastime YES
Red Zeppelin YES
India's NO
South of Philly YES
Pocorello's YES
Bayleaf NO
Montalbano's YES
ect?


That was fun.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103513 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:44 am to
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Not arguing, just not understanding your point.

It seems that every city has a "half" that doesn't support the food scene.



I think half of Baton Rouge supports an entirely different food scene than we're talking about. There are so many good hole in the wall joints in North BR that never get talked about on here other than Tony's and Delpit's. I used to work on Plank and could spend a few weeks hitting up a different spot for lunch every day and enjoying it all. That's very different than what we're discussing though.

I also feel like the really great food cities don't have a "half" that doesn't support the food scene, it's a much smaller percentage. Baton Rouge isn't a great food city, anyone trying to say otherwise is oblivious or trolling.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7568 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:48 am to
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There's no way NOLA would be what it is without the food tourism.

Tourism certainly plays a part of the NOLA dining scene, but what makes it great is the neighborhood restaurants. I rarely dine in the French Quarter (touristy areas) as the real gems are spread out over town. I would say the vast majority of neighborhood restaurants are supported by locals and not tourists.

While an outsider may consider the Quarter to be the epicenter of our dining scene, I coudn't disagree more.



Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69316 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:48 am to
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Baton Rouge isn't a great food city, anyone trying to say otherwise is oblivious or trolling.


Baton Rouge isn't New Orleans, NYC, or Paris, but it's a damn good food city for it's size. Name me a single city outside of Louisiana of less than 300,000 people that isn't a major tourist attraction with better food options than BR.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61278 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:50 am to
This has actually been a pretty good thread. Usually the baton rouge debates turn into a shite show.
I don't think the BR restaurant scene is as bad as alot of people say. It's not all chains and probably better than many cities its size around the country.
I do think they could use more chef owned restaurants who want to be create and change the menu up more as was mentioned earlier.

I do have a problem with the BR suburbs. Can't understand why Denham can't have anything any better or even Gonzales/Prairiville.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7389 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:55 am to
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% wise the student population is very small. Savannah probably has a larger %.


Just did some quick math based on the wikipedia pages of the colleges in each city. They both come out to 16.4% of the city population.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:57 am to
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It's not a black/white thing, it's socio-economic (urban poor vs urban middle class vs urban wealthy, vs suburban middle class, vs rural poor), it's geography (that's too far to drive in this traffic), it's mindset (that's too fancy),


Same can be said for many other cities in the country that have better food scenes than Baton Rouge.

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ect. New Orleans not only has a home grown foodie culture that generally shuns outside chain restaurants (so Popeye's, NOH&S Co, Bud's, Rotolo's, and Copeland's obviously don't apply), but also a huge tourist population that doesn't come to dine at the places they know from home, but come to eat unique things in more up-scale places.


Thought the OP was comparing BR to Savannah, not New Orleans ?

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Baton Rouge has never been an "elegant" city. Outside of the legislators (this use to be a larger market before Jindal's ethics reforms cut back on how much lobbyists could spend on them at meals), the wealthy suburbanites, and the power lunch crowd downtown, there's not much demand for "fine dining" outside of special occasions. This is a blue collar town and has been ever since Exxon was built. Blue collar people want a blue collar, casual meal. That's why Baton Rouge excels at that with places like Sammy's, City Pork, and Dempsey's. They can go there without feeling like they have to "dress up" and can order to-go if they want.


Wouldn't know it from the new "planned communities" and attempts at upscale shopping and dining being built.

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There's no huge tourism population looking to try some unique, upscale BR. BR wasn't raised as a unique culinary treasure. It was practically south Mississippi/chain city up until 20 years ago, and still bares the crutch of those times. However, for a city of its size and demographics, BR has some great food.


No excuse. There are better restaurants in Jackson, MS than in Baton Rouge.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
18159 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:58 am to
BR has a few decent places but you do run out of options very quickly if you dine out often.

Having lived in both New Orleans and Baton Rouge, I think the main difference in dining comes from New Orleans being a true international city and Baton Rouge a sprawling country town.

Tourists and the fact that New Orleans residents eat out often as a matter of course create a lot of culinary demand that supports it's restaurants. You don't have as many ethnic options in New Orleans like you do in other major cities, which is a weak spot in their dining scene.

Country people, like you have in BR just tend to eat at home mostly, and typically dine out only for special occasions. Less sophisticated palates yield less sophisticated dining options. This is not subject to change.

I've heard that there is a really good restaurant in New Roads called Hot tails. Never been there to comment but I heard he is expanding to a place in the Warehouse district in New Orleans. Seems logical that he would consider Baton Rouge as an option but I guess no chef really thinks he has really arrived when he has had success in the BR dining scene.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35131 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:58 am to
Does Savannah have Tiger dogs ?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69316 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:00 am to
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Can't understand why Denham can't have anything any better or even Gonzales/Prairiville.


That's an easy answer: Denham is mostly transplants. Gonzales (less so in Prarieville) has a large indigenous population that has lived there, never moving away, for generations. It has a home-grown Cajun food culture complete with unique regional recipes. Gonzales, therefor, has several local staples like Snow's, Philay's, T-Wayne's, Carlico Cafe, Country Kitchen, the Cabin, ect) Denham, and much of northern Livingston Parish, lacks that, with most of the transplants coming from other southern states.

Southern Livingston Parish, on the other hand, has a lot of great casual restaurants due to its high percentage of native-born Cajuns. Southern Livingston (aka, the Cajun Riviera along the Amite and Diversion Canal) has Kevin's, Swamp Pop Cafe, Hilltop, and Val's just to name a few.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:00 am to
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Name me a single city outside of Louisiana of less than 300,000 people that isn't a major tourist attraction with better food options than BR.



Shreveport
Lafayette
Jackson, MS
Birmingham, AL
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:00 am to
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Tourism certainly plays a part of the NOLA dining scene, but what makes it great is the neighborhood restaurants. I rarely dine in the French Quarter (touristy areas) as the real gems are spread out over town. I would say the vast majority of neighborhood restaurants are supported by locals and not tourists.


Boom. Spreading logic and truth.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35131 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:01 am to
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Name me a single city outside of Louisiana


quote:

Shreveport


Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103513 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:01 am to
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Baton Rouge isn't New Orleans, NYC, or Paris, but it's a damn good food city for it's size. Name me a single city outside of Louisiana of less than 300,000 people that isn't a major tourist attraction with better food options than BR.


Whoa now, just because I don't think Baton Rouge is a great food city, doesn't mean I don't think it's pretty solid.

I think it's pretty much impossible to be a "great" food city without the tourism.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69316 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:03 am to
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No excuse. There are better restaurants in Jackson, MS than in Baton Rouge.


False
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:06 am to
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False


Saltine

Local 463

Parlor Market

Char

Just these 4 restaurants alone have better menus than anything in Baton Rouge.


When Juban's is your standard bearer you have problems dude.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:07 am to
Y'all should just all move to Laf
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:08 am to
I live in Nola. Already all set on non-shitty places to live.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69316 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:09 am to
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Shreveport


Technically inside Louisiana (sadly) and disagree about the food

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Lafayette

There is no doubt that Laffy food is superior, but Laffy is certainly inside Louisiana

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Jackson, MS

No, just no

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Birmingham, AL

Legit contender, here.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:11 am to
Why the "outside of Louisiana" caveat? You don't want to admit that BR is the 4th best food city in its own state?
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