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re: How many people expect to be charged for a glass of water
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:25 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:25 am to fightin tigers
I believe the law varies. But public venues are supposed to provide drinking water in most areas. I know LSU is required to provide them or allow you to bring your own in. Thats the reason last year in Alex Box they allowed you to bring in your own bottled water since the water fountains were not installed.
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:27 am to Y.A. Tittle
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The whole notion that any such place would do that is nothing short of retarded.
I agree it would be retarded, but it is a good/service provided that a restaurant could expect to be compensated for. sure the people running it could be observed as assholes for the fee, but that is like charging a corking fee. What did the restaurant do other than give you two glasses.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:28 am to fightin tigers
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I would imagine this occurs more where they factor down to each drink and you ordering a glass of water effects their bottomline (chili's, outback, TGIFridays)
I've eaten at many places, both high and low end. I've never seen anyone charge for a glass of water. It may happen somewhere, but it is very rare.
You are arguing a point that really doesn't exist.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:28 am to Catman88
Jesus. Everyone in this thread has taken my overhead analysis and assumed that I am advocating charging for water, which I have never done. All I did was simply point out that the FREE water you get at a restaurant is not free, nor should you just whole-sale assume it is.
And people saying that because it is not on the menu it should not be charged for are absolutely retarded.
And people saying that because it is not on the menu it should not be charged for are absolutely retarded.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:31 am to lsutiger_08
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And people saying that because it is not on the menu it should not be charged for are absolutely retarded.
WTF? Restaurants list drinks (alcoholic and non-alcoholic) they charge for on the menus. Never seen glass of water listed with a price on any menu.
Let me guess, you don't look at menus, either.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:31 am to lsutiger_08
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All I did was simply point out that the FREE water you get at a restaurant is not free
neither are napkins, so what is your point?
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:33 am to JustSmokin
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Let me guess, you don't look at menus, either.
Of course I look at menus. However, I frequently order off menu items or sides of things that are not listed, because I know the restaurant has them. I can get a side of spinach at almost any restaurant, but I will damn sure tell you that it is rarely, if ever, listed. Should that be free?
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:33 am to JustSmokin
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You are arguing a point that really doesn't exist.
so when I was charged for a large water at Micky D's that really didn't happen?
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:36 am to fightin tigers
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so when I was charged for a large water at Micky D's that really didn't happen?
You were charged for a CUP not the water in it. Ask them next time they will tell you exactly that.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:37 am to Catman88
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You were charged for a CUP not the water in it. Ask them next time they will tell you exactly that.
so can a restaurant charge you for the glass and cost of making the ice?
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:39 am to lsutiger_08
Should I also expect a cleaning bill for the napkins I use? What about the table cloth? How about that match to light the candle at my table? Hell what about the ice in the wine bucket? That wasnt listed. Ketchup, steak sauce charge too? I can go on and on...
Every place I have been to that you have to pay for say bbq sauce on the side its listed on the menu. I have never been charged for water in my life nor have I ever seen it charged on a menu. You will pay for a cup at fast food places but they will never charge you for the tap water in it.
Every place I have been to that you have to pay for say bbq sauce on the side its listed on the menu. I have never been charged for water in my life nor have I ever seen it charged on a menu. You will pay for a cup at fast food places but they will never charge you for the tap water in it.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:40 am to fightin tigers
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so when I was charged for a large water at Micky D's that really didn't happen?
They aren't hiding it. Everyone knows, or should know, that you are buying that cup.
We're talking about water served in a glass at a restaurant.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:40 am to fightin tigers
cost of making the ice?
Hell why not charge me for the electricity to make the door make a bing sound when I walk in...
How many people would visit a restuarant that itemized every cost inflicted on them to their customers?? That would be an interesting buisness model.
Hell why not charge me for the electricity to make the door make a bing sound when I walk in...
How many people would visit a restuarant that itemized every cost inflicted on them to their customers?? That would be an interesting buisness model.
This post was edited on 3/8/10 at 9:42 am
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:41 am to fightin tigers
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so can a restaurant charge you for the glass and cost of making the ice?
With the exception of some silly laws folks mentioned earlier about having to provide water (which I'm not specifically aware of) a restaurant CAN charge you for anything it wants.
I don't think that's what anyone's discussing here, though.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:41 am to fightin tigers
go to exxon or circle k and ask them for a cup of ice from the fountain drink spot and see what they tell you at the cash register.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:46 am to fightin tigers
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So I should pay 2.25 for my iced tea instead of 2.00 to make up for you getting a glass of water?
I see all this talk about not caring about the bill is all talk. It's only 25 cent brah, you're the one being cheap here
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that sort of seems like welfare, huh?
Maybe if it were provided by the government, but here it's a marketing gimmick. Giving away a very low cost item for "free" in order to get people in the door and entice larger sales. Do you avoid Mexican restaurant on principle because you don't like subsidizing all those chips and salsa free loaders?
What if charging for water actually hurt business to the point that they had to raise prices on other items to make up for the lost customer volume? Then you'd be paying more than you would have if you were subsidizing those no good water leeches.
A bit far fetched for sure, but I think it illustrates the difference between marketing gimmick in a competitive restaurant environment vs. welfare freebies.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:47 am to TIGRLEE
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go to exxon or circle k and ask them for a cup of ice from the fountain drink spot and see what they tell you at the cash register.
I am not dropping $100 for a meal at circle K.
Plus they have signs informing you how much the cup of ice will be.
resturants spend a ton of money on Air Conditioning, will they charge for that too..
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:50 am to fightin tigers
Hey how much water is being used if you decide to go take a piss at a restuarant?
Shouldnt they charge you far more than the cost of a cup of water at places that charge for this?
How about an added surcharge if you choose to wash your hands completely rather than a quick dousing?
There is an operational cost to use restrooms.. How come nobody brings up this as wellfare??
Shouldnt they charge you far more than the cost of a cup of water at places that charge for this?
How about an added surcharge if you choose to wash your hands completely rather than a quick dousing?
There is an operational cost to use restrooms.. How come nobody brings up this as wellfare??
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:52 am to TIGRLEE
from the previous 4 posts above I see that people are willing to pay for a paper cup they can take with them, but won't pay for labor, DESPITE HOW MINIMUM, to clean a glass.
to qualify some of what I am getting at...a friend who owned a snoball stand once stated how he came up with prices. he factored in cost of the cup, ice used, syrup, spoon, 2 napkins, and straw. he figured it banked about .25 off each cup sold. Now, when someone took a few extra napkins or got a glass of water it used more of his raw materials (the styrofoam cup being the biggest cost). He explained this to his workers and said that if they handing out 10 extra napkins (a handful) to customers that glass was basically a wash.
and if you break the restaurants glass do you asked to have it tacked onto your bill? no, that money is absorbed by a small overhead factor into each time that glass is used.
to qualify some of what I am getting at...a friend who owned a snoball stand once stated how he came up with prices. he factored in cost of the cup, ice used, syrup, spoon, 2 napkins, and straw. he figured it banked about .25 off each cup sold. Now, when someone took a few extra napkins or got a glass of water it used more of his raw materials (the styrofoam cup being the biggest cost). He explained this to his workers and said that if they handing out 10 extra napkins (a handful) to customers that glass was basically a wash.
and if you break the restaurants glass do you asked to have it tacked onto your bill? no, that money is absorbed by a small overhead factor into each time that glass is used.
Posted on 3/8/10 at 9:53 am to Tigerpaw123
Whats next... a surcharge on the amount of air condition or heat used by a patron. Common sense should prevail - you build these costs into the price of the meal!
This post was edited on 3/8/10 at 9:54 am
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