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re: Hop Lovers - It's OK to be jealous....

Posted on 6/13/16 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 12:18 pm to
not touching this one other than....

the most recent ghost is a tad "harsh". once they start distributing Opus (i'm assuming they will) i will probably lay off on ghost for the most part.

flame away
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 12:20 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 12:37 pm to
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i'd highly suggest you get a 3 gallon carboy. That much head space in your carboy will lead to some potential oxidation of your beer.


You think oxygen will penetrate the massive amount of CO2 inside of there? I appreciate it, and these first few APA batches were atypically small due to testing out a new recipe. We are scaling them up to 5 gallons once we are satisified with the basis of the recipe. I did a lot of research on this particular potential problem and much of what I gathered seemed to say that it shouldn't be a problem at all. We shall see. Thanks.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 12:55 pm to
I gotta be honest. I wasn't jealous...
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 12:55 pm to
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You think oxygen will penetrate the massive amount of CO2 inside of there?


There is already a bunch in there whenever you pitch your yeast. Yes, the CO2 from the fermentation pushes the O2 out. However, when ferm is complete, every time you open the carboy, you let in oxygen, and unless you have some CO2 sitting around to purge, then it could become an issue.

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I appreciate it, and these first few APA batches were atypically small due to testing out a new recipe.


That's fine, and you may get away without having your beer get oxidized. If it tastes great drink it. If you do get some oxidation then for your hopped up beers, the hops will fade more quickly than a more strictly controlled beer.

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I did a lot of research on this particular potential problem and much of what I gathered seemed to say that it shouldn't be a problem at all.


And again it might. Didn't know if you were brewing only 3 gallon batches at a time, so i wanted to let you know that they make 3 gallon carboys. I have 2 i use for split batches.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:04 pm to
Congrats man. If you're happy, that's all that matters
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15758 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:12 pm to
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And again it might. Didn't know if you were brewing only 3 gallon batches at a time, so i wanted to let you know that they make 3 gallon carboys. I have 2 i use for split batches.


I suppose we do need to invest in a mid sized system with 2-3 gallon carboys. I am about to get a 1 gallon to do more test batches on a smaller and cheaper scale, but it seems that we've been doing more 2-3 gallon batches in the recent past as we're writing more recipes now than just brewing other existing recipes. Thanks for the advice.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:19 pm to
Don't listen to the snobs here. Fresh IPA's taste great. Some can still taste really good several months later. Especially if you like your hops a tad more mellow.

I just had several Envie's with a February bottle date and they all tasted great. Not as good as fresh, but still very good.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15758 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:22 pm to
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I just had several Envie's with a February bottle date and they all tasted great. Not as good as fresh, but still very good.


Which is basically all I was saying. Thanks.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 1:30 pm to
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I am about to get a 1 gallon to do more test batches on a smaller and cheaper scale, but it seems that we've been doing more 2-3 gallon batches in the recent past as we're writing more recipes now than just brewing other existing recipes. Thanks for the advice.



It would be cool to brew a 5 gallon base beer (if you have the equipment for it) and then do separate alterations to each one like different yeasts or dry hopping at different rates/ varieties, experimenting with oaking, etc....

I've been wanting to do this with sour beers. Get 5, 1 gallon jugs, and brewing a base 5 gallons, then experiment with different souring microbes, or brett strains, etc...

The only draw back would be that i'd have to bottle all of that up, and now that i keg, i hate bottling.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:02 pm to
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If you're happy, that's all that matters
wrong!!

conformity to the standards set by your peer group is a must
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15758 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:26 pm to
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I've been wanting to do this with sour beers. Get 5, 1 gallon jugs, and brewing a base 5 gallons, then experiment with different souring microbes, or brett strains, etc...


That's a great idea. We actually have something similar going on right now as I did another APA identical to this batch a week after so I'll be bottling this coming weekend. I missed my gravity slightly as well so since they were almost identical, I used a dif yeast strain and I wont dry hop this one. We'll see what the difference are in about 2 weeks after they carbonate. That is a really good idea about breaking down a 5 gallon batch into a bunch of small batches with the same base. I think we may try that.
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 2:31 pm to
Found some GHost on the door of my fridge the other day. Didn't check the date, but it was still juicy.


Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:32 pm to
Try harder.
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3283 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:39 pm to
a hop for mankind was disappointing, big dipa was pretty good ans so was opus vert
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