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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:27 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:27 am to
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believe this is what Jester King started off doing, but not sure why other breweries haven't.


Well they used the BSI variant of 3711, but yeah, same thing.

3711 can ferment air. It's a beast.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:56 pm to
i was just given 2 50 foot and 1 100 foot SS coils. im debating on making a removable herms coil for my mashes. Is anyone brewing with a more sophisticated system than just a burner and pot?
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:08 pm to
I've brewed with a fully electric 3 vessel herms system. It was great to work with but royally sucked to clean.
I currently have a Brew Boss system, that's much easier to clean and still works great.

How would you control heat to the HERMS coil if you went that route?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:19 pm to
for the time being just manually turn the pump on and off. I am still using a cooler as my mash tun so i really wont have to do it that much. I was really looking into this for stepped mashes. I eventually want to go fully automated gas system.

What all was hard to clean? you have to clean the tun and the BK in all setup and this you just have to clean the coil and hoses would could be don pretty easily. with a few water changes.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Is anyone brewing with a more sophisticated system than just a burner and pot?

I have a full-blown HERMS setup with control panel and everything. I would think it would be hard to keep a constant temp in the HLT if you were doing it manually with propane. But I've never tried it so maybe it's not that hard.

You don't need anything super-sophisticated to control it. I think all you'd really need is a thermocouple, a PID and an SSR. And a heating element of course.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:28 pm to
did you build or Buy. im working on he design of my build right now. need to know if my dad will weld it or not.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:34 pm to
A little of both. I bought the pots and modded them myself. By that I mean I added holes for valves and the HERMS coil and stuff like that. Not to mention the heating elements. I basically followed the Electric Brewery design. As for the control panel, I could have built it myself but I bought it pre-built because I was tired of DIY shite and just wanted to brew some beer.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58504 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:35 pm to
yea i already have all my keggles set up. I have thought about going electric but for some reason i like gas. Which pre mad control setup did you get.

The Electric brewery on is really nice. but DIY is 1500 bucks. and it assembled is 2300 bucks. thats crazy expensive.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

I've brewed with a fully electric 3 vessel herms system. It was great to work with but royally sucked to clean.
I currently have a Brew Boss system, that's much easier to clean and still works great.


What are your likes and dislikes with the Brew Boss? Been looking at a system like the Grainfather, Brew Boss, etc. Not sure which one to go with.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14951 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:46 pm to
I got the Electric Brewery panel. Yeah, it's ridiculous how much it costs. You can probably cut some corners without a lot of loss in functionality. For example, you could probably get by with just 2 PIDs. I thought about doing some sort of Raspberry Pi controller but I knew that would turn into yet another project.

The nice thing about electric is how quiet it is during the boil.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58504 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 3:04 pm to
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The nice thing about electric is how quiet it is during the boil.
yea. thats that im thinking about and being able to brew in the garage "safely" either out of the sun or out of the rain.
Posted by sandraccoon
In the middle of nowhere
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:18 pm to
Any of you baws from Walker or Denham and have gotten your water tested??
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1808 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:41 pm to
My brother has an electric setup where he basically does BiaB (element in a kettle with a recirculating pump) with a mesh insert. Just pull the mesh insert out with a pulley and then boil. He likes it, but has had a couple batches where he got some scorching on the element and it ruined the beer.

I use a 3500w induction cooktop to brew so I can have a brewery indoors that's not my kitchen. I really like it, and it didn't need a gcfi 220 breaker since there is no contact between water and electricity.
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:55 am to
quote:

What all was hard to clean?


I used 15 gallon kegs, which were not easy to sling around. I had an electricbrewery.com clone but with keggles.
Also, there's just a good bit of stuff involved that needs cleaning. And yes, it's just adding water and doing a few water changes but the time and effort adds up when you have 2 pumps (which need to be broken down and cleaned every now and then), a 50' coil, a mash tun, a false bottom, a boil kettle, 4 or 5 hoses, etc.

quote:

What are your likes and dislikes with the Brew Boss?


I like the system, it's nice and compact and is great at keeping a perfect mash temp with little to no effort. The clean up is minimal and I really like the COFI filter. What I don't like, is that it's still a little too complicated for what I want. I've been doing small batch BIAB on my stove and have really been digging not having to clean pumps and hoses at all. It's really just a lazy thing

If anyone is interested I'll be putting the brew boss up for sale as soon as I can get it out and get pics of everything. I have the 20 gallon Brew Boss pot with COFI filter.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57816 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Also, there's just a good bit of stuff involved that needs cleaning. And yes, it's just adding water and doing a few water changes but the time and effort adds up when you have 2 pumps (which need to be broken down and cleaned every now and then), a 50' coil, a mash tun, a false bottom, a boil kettle, 4 or 5 hoses, etc.



I still like my simple gravity system. Cleaning is easy and relatively quick.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1808 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:33 pm to
If I were going to change my system, it'd be to go smaller. I find myself limited in how often I can brew by trying to maintain an acceptable BAC level...
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58504 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:06 pm to
used my pump for the first time and to tell you the truth i liked it more than moving hot kegs of liquid p and down.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15818 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:30 pm to
Heck yeah. I really like using my pump. I was setting up some sketchy ways to gravity drain at times.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29810 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:42 pm to
Every time I lift a heavy pot of hot liquid I think to myself, "I should really get a pump."
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15818 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:05 pm to
Yeah, my lower back thanks me for it.
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