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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II
Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:06 am to BugAC
Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:06 am to BugAC
Cold Side Oxidation: How are you guys going about preventing this? My last NEIPA was a success and i maintained the flavor damn near to the end of the keg. My solution to maintaining hop aroma/flavor was to do a closed transfer from fermenter to keg via a sterile siphon filter. The next part was periodically purging the fermenter with CO2, and refilling the airlock when i was cold crashing. Which was kind of a bitch considering i had to remove the fermenter from the fermenting freezer to purge.
So i found some brulosophy article on this and wondering if others have used any of these methods.
LINK
The first method seems to be a great way of doing so, and pretty easy to replicate.
Secondary question, what sort of carboy cap do i need for an italian glass style 6.5 gallon carboy, so i can use with the sterile siphon starter?
The typical caps are too big.
So i found some brulosophy article on this and wondering if others have used any of these methods.
LINK
The first method seems to be a great way of doing so, and pretty easy to replicate.
Secondary question, what sort of carboy cap do i need for an italian glass style 6.5 gallon carboy, so i can use with the sterile siphon starter?
The typical caps are too big.
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:10 am to BugAC
quote:I keep seeing comments like this. I rack a batch of beer carboy to carboy three of four times and get the clarity I want before I ever think of kegging.
Speaking of debris in kegs,
Am I the only one still doing this?
Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:12 am to GeauxPack81
quote:I try to always do it this way. Twice the beer and half the mess!
Double brew day seems awesome.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:16 am to AggieHank86
quote:
I keep seeing comments like this. I rack a batch of beer carboy to carboy three of four times and get the clarity I want before I ever think of kegging.
Am I the only one still doing this?
I avoid this so i don't pick up CO2. I don't want O2 in my sour beers. Also, i just use the keg as a vessel to store the beer so i can hook it up to my beer gun.
I could/should have racked to another fermenter to get teh beer off of the puree'. But i didn't think i'd pick up as much puree'd blackberries/peaches as i did. Filters aren't working, because the filters themselves, get clogged up.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:44 am to BugAC
quote:
How are you guys going about preventing this? My last NEIPA was a success and i maintained the flavor damn near to the end of the keg. My solution to maintaining hop aroma/flavor was to do a closed transfer from fermenter to keg via a sterile siphon filter. The next part was periodically purging the fermenter with CO2, and refilling the airlock when i was cold crashing. Which was kind of a bitch considering i had to remove the fermenter from the fermenting freezer to purge.
Only done one, but it did hold up way longer than I expected. Had it on tap a month and a half, and really only noticed a subtle decline the last couple pours. Still thought it was drinking well.... Filled my keg with StarSan, and pushed it out with CO2. I also did a closed transfer using a sterile siphon filter. I cold crashed prior to, but not a hard cold crash. 24 hrs at about 55 degrees. I thought it dropped enough of the hop particulate in the carboy, and I don't think I had any suckback at all. The liquid in my s-lock was entirely on the side furthest from my beer, as if there was still CO2 forcing it away. Also tied a nylon bag around the end of my sterile siphon, to even further filter out anything that maybe hadn't dropped during my cold crash.
quote:I struggled with this as well. Turns out the 6.5 gallon carboy caps are smaller than the 5 gallon ones, idk why.... I ordered 6.5 gallon Carboy Cap, and it fit great.
Secondary question, what sort of carboy cap do i need for an italian glass style 6.5 gallon carboy, so i can use with the sterile siphon starter?
Posted on 6/13/19 at 11:06 am to BugAC
quote:I have DEFINITELY had that problem.
Filters aren't working, because the filters themselves, get clogged up
Posted on 6/13/19 at 11:11 am to BugAC
quote:i thought me and you talked about this method months ago. I know i posted it.
So i found some brulosophy article on this and wondering if others have used any of these methods.
LINK
The first method seems to be a great way of doing so, and pretty easy to replicate.
I havent had a big issue with this on my NEIPAs. But i do ferment in a deep freeze, I know everytime i open the freezer i can tell it is FULL of CO2. So i dont hink i need some apparatus to make sure c02 is being sucked back in, when the ambient air is CO2.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 12:31 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
i thought me and you talked about this method months ago. I know i posted it.
That's right. I thought i just read articles on it, didn't realize we discussed it. I'm getting old.
quote:
I havent had a big issue with this on my NEIPAs. But i do ferment in a deep freeze, I know everytime i open the freezer i can tell it is FULL of CO2. So i dont hink i need some apparatus to make sure c02 is being sucked back in, when the ambient air is CO2.
Yeah, but i open mine up to check FG when it's near the end of fermentation. Also, CO2, left undisturbed, layers towards the ground. Your carboy, likely isn't pulling in a lot of the CO2 when it is cold crashing. Someone over at homebrewtalk said they hooked up a mylar balloon and got enough to fill 3 or 4 balloons during fermentation, so you also aren't getting a full volume of a chest freezer's worth of CO2.
This could all be another worry about nothing, as by just doing a closed transfer i preserved more hop character and sustained the life of my beer up until the keg was nearly empty.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 1:12 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
I keep seeing comments like this. I rack a batch of beer carboy to carboy three of four times and get the clarity I want before I ever think of kegging.
It's not the racking process that clears the beer. It's the time between racking that allows the trub to settle out. So I've had better results just doing one racking at the end when everything has dropped out of suspension.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 1:25 pm to MountainTiger
quote:I have done it both ways and decided that I like the beer better when it does not spend as much time sitting on lots of trüb.
It's not the racking process that clears the beer. It's the time between racking that allows the trub to settle out. So I've had better results just doing one racking at the end when everything has dropped out of suspension.
I know there is potential downside to handling the beer multiple times, but I like the results over many dozens of batches.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 1:30 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
I have done it both ways and decided that I like the beer better when it does not spend as much time sitting on lots of trüb.
How much time is your beer spending on trub? By all means, do what makes you happy, it's your beer. But, it's not really necessary to rack to multiple carboys prior to packaging. Yeast autolysis really won't get you in trouble until you are dealing with multiple months in a fermenter. And if it's a mixed ferm sour, brett actually thrives off of autolysis from dead sach yeast.
Oxygen ingress is more detrimental to beer than yeast autolysis.
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 6/13/19 at 1:35 pm to BugAC
quote:
How much time is your beer spending on trub? By all means, do what makes you happy, it's your beer. But, it's not really necessary to rack to multiple carboys prior to packaging.
I go from fermentor to keg....... I do have my recipes designed to have a final 5.5 gallons on a 5 gallon batch and 11 gallons on a 10 gallon batch so i have enough liquid above the trub to pull clear beer off.
If i am making a super clear beer and will be transporting it, after i move it to a keg, i will push it through a c02 purged filter into another keg.
This prevents having dirty beer after moving the keg.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 1:38 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
I go from fermentor to keg.......
Same for clean beers. Long aged beers, i rack off of the dregs and blend in a separate fermenter. The added bonus is i then rack new beer onto those sour dregs and i prop up the next generation of bugs.
quote:
I do have my recipes designed to have a final 5.5 gallons on a 5 gallon batch
Same here. Especially with NEIPA's. Usually the batch size is 6 to 6 1/4 gallons so i end up with 5 gallons in the keg.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 1:52 pm to BugAC
quote:trüble?
Yeast autolysis really won't get you in trouble
Thanks for the input.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:45 pm to AggieHank86
Refractometers - Do y'all use these? I have one, but find i ignore using mine because it is always inconsistent with my hydrometer readings. I did the initial calibration but it still manages to read off.
I'm brewing 2 brews tomorrow, so i'll use both, and see what my differences are.
I'm brewing 2 brews tomorrow, so i'll use both, and see what my differences are.
Posted on 6/15/19 at 5:14 pm to BugAC
Double brew day complete. NEIPA w/ galaxy, Sabro, and azacca fermented with white lbs yeast coast haze blend and a Biere de Garde fermented with bootleg biology saison parfait, mad fermentationist blend, and 2018 sour solera.
Mash in 1st beer at 9:15 am. Finished cleanup at 5:05 pm.
Mash in 1st beer at 9:15 am. Finished cleanup at 5:05 pm.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 7:03 am to BugAC
I have a bunch of kegging/tap/gas equipment (7 kegs, 3 faucets, fittings, etc) that I'm trying to sell on Facebook Marketplace. I'm not shipping. Any other recommendations for places to post the equipment? Can I post it here?
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:46 am to RushHour
quote:
? Can I post it here?
Go for it
Posted on 6/16/19 at 1:40 pm to BugAC
I use my refractometer on brew days. Got one of those cheap ones on eBay. It matches right up with my hydro samples.
Brewing up a steam beer today using Oslo. I used some Oslo last week for a pilsner, but we had a cool snap and I had to break out the heater to keep it going. Tastes good, though.
Brewing up a steam beer today using Oslo. I used some Oslo last week for a pilsner, but we had a cool snap and I had to break out the heater to keep it going. Tastes good, though.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 4:24 pm to RushHour
FOR SALE:
Located in Houma.
$400 OBO
LINK
Getting out of the kegging game so I'm selling all of my equipment. All you need to get started from here is beer/air line, a fridge/freezer, and c02 tank.
If you have any questions, need more pics, or need more details, please ask.
SELLING EVERYTHING TOGETHER. I am not currently willing to part this out due to the volume of items involved.
What's included:
7 - Ball Lock Corny kegs - 1 needs a "body connect" and doesn't hold pressure. Possibly just needs new o-rings needed but I wouldn't take my word for it.
3 - Perlick 425SS - These are forward sealing stainless steel taps with removable tips. Work wonderfully.
3 - 4" shanks - 1 has an integrated barb, the others have separate barb pieces that are included
3 - ball lock gas-in disconnects
3 - ball lock beverage-out disconnects
3 - Custom Cypress Knee cut tap handles
1 - 4 way gas manifold for connected up to 4 kegs at one time to a c02 bottle
1 - dual gauge pressure regulator
1 - Johnson Controls analog temperature controller
Located in Houma.
$400 OBO
LINK
Getting out of the kegging game so I'm selling all of my equipment. All you need to get started from here is beer/air line, a fridge/freezer, and c02 tank.
If you have any questions, need more pics, or need more details, please ask.
SELLING EVERYTHING TOGETHER. I am not currently willing to part this out due to the volume of items involved.
What's included:
7 - Ball Lock Corny kegs - 1 needs a "body connect" and doesn't hold pressure. Possibly just needs new o-rings needed but I wouldn't take my word for it.
3 - Perlick 425SS - These are forward sealing stainless steel taps with removable tips. Work wonderfully.
3 - 4" shanks - 1 has an integrated barb, the others have separate barb pieces that are included
3 - ball lock gas-in disconnects
3 - ball lock beverage-out disconnects
3 - Custom Cypress Knee cut tap handles
1 - 4 way gas manifold for connected up to 4 kegs at one time to a c02 bottle
1 - dual gauge pressure regulator
1 - Johnson Controls analog temperature controller
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 7:00 am
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