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Posted on 11/16/13 at 10:38 am to
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 10:38 am to
I'm going to let them age and see what happens. Don't really have a good place to get them all cold though. They aren't bad enough to dump, yet, but not really good enough to share. Hopefully B and Bbrou don't have the same experience as I did with the bottles I sent for them.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 12:49 pm to
Starting up my brew day. Jolly Klaus IPA.

A little late start, but oh well, nothing else going on today.

I'll provide a few picks, but not a step by step as i have been doing.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:46 pm to
Added my first wort hops of mosaic and chinook. The mosaic hops have a slightly spicy, berry, citrus, earthy smell to them.

The chinook is piney and earthy.

This smells great.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:49 pm to


Recirculating.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 4:10 pm to
Oh, my mash efficiency again was in the 90's. I hit my above my target OG and i hit my pre-boil gallons. I calibrated my hydrometer earlier too, and took that into affect. The only other thing i can think of is that the temperature adjustment on beersmith must be off, but it worked fine in the past.

My last brew finished with a mash efficiency in the 90's as well. It was an oatmeal stout and it's great. But my OG on that one was 10 points high, and my FG was also 10 points high.

any thoughts?
Posted by LakeCountryRed
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 4:20 pm to
Ready to try some
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 6:57 pm to
Ok, OG came out to 1.090 at 4.5 gallons. I was 1 gallon short and 20 points off. I did a 70 minute mash and a 90 minute boil (first time). I had 5.5 gallons at flame out, but i had a shite load of trub due to the hops.

My fermenter had 4.5 gallons. So i added 1 gallon of water, and my OG is at 1.078. So again, i am 10 points high. Still wondering what is happening.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 7:06 am to
quote:

Oh, my mash efficiency again was in the 90's.


Wow, That's a crazy high mash eff...

Most of the time I'm in the mid 70s, if I'm lucky ill hit the low 80s.

Sounds like a great brew day.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 9:55 am to
Brew day went off without a hitch. Just trying to understand why my mash eff is so high. It's screwing up my calculations and ultimately my abv.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 10:01 am to
quote:


My last brew finished with a mash efficiency in the 90's as well.


quote:

any thoughts?


I do BIAB and was initially worried about low efficiency. I looked into ways to increase efficiency and have been pretty consistently hitting the low 80s. So this is what I would look at:

- grain mill (finer mill will produce higher efficiency) - do you mill your own grains and have you changed your mill settings? If not, have you started getting your milled grains from a new source?

- pH (pH range can impact efficiency) have you done anything to adjust your pH?

- water makeup - have you started using a new water source or treating your water differently?

That is all that I can think of but I'm sure there are other reasons. Overly high efficiency could extract excessive tannins and could negatively impact mouth feel but it probably isn't a huge issue.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 10:06 am to
I'm going to bottle a 100% brett hoppy wheat and a 100% brett strawberry wheat today. I might mash my baltic porter today but will probably wait until next week and just build a lacto starter today.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 10:53 am to
quote:

- grain mill (finer mill will produce higher efficiency) - do you mill your own grains and have you changed your mill settings? If not, have you started getting your milled grains from a new source?


No. I've been getting all my grains from Austin Homebrew, milled.

quote:

- pH (pH range can impact efficiency) have you done anything to adjust your pH?


I use 5.2 mash stabilizer. My last 3 brews my mash efficiency has been 89, 97, and 92. I've used 5.2 for all 3. The brew before that i also used 5.2 an my mash eff was 83%. So i don't think it's that.

quote:

- water makeup - have you started using a new water source or treating your water differently?


Same water source. Baton Rouge water.

I'm thinking maybe it might be my equipment profiles in beersmith? Could that be the difference?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 11:44 am to
The only thing i can think of, that may be the outlier, is the 5.2 stabilizer.

I've done 5 batches this year. My efficiencies have been 83.3, 83.1, 89, 97, 92.6. My 1st batch was the only batch i did not use 5.2. However, the second batch, i didn't throw in 5.2 until 30 minutes into the mash.

Anyone have any experience with 5.2 causing your mashes to be too efficient?
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:24 pm to
Better late than never I guess, I'm about to start the boil on my breakfast stout

It's way too hot for mid November

I hate feeling like I have to get this done rather than actually being excited about doing it
This post was edited on 11/17/13 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:33 pm to
I know you have been measuring correctly but there is no possible way you got 97% efficiency. Not like I don't believe you, I don't think that is actually possible.

My thought is that you are using more grain than you need for your recipe. Whether that is beer Smith telling you you need more then you do or austin measuring it incorrectly. It is impossible to get 97 percent of the sugar out of the mash.
This post was edited on 11/17/13 at 8:52 pm
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

impossible to get 97 percent of the sugar out of the mash.



Yeah. You'd have to grind the grain to dust. Do some sort of extreme mash and then squeeze the shite out of the grains to get all of the liquid out. Even then. Still probably not 97%.
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:33 am to
After one full week I'm still getting a little bubbling from the airlock in primary. Do I need to wait until it completely stops before racking to secondary?
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/18/13 at 7:58 am to
You could just not rack to secondary. It's really not necessary. Dry hop it in the primary or do what you have to do to it. Don't mess with it until you have to bottle.
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 11/18/13 at 8:00 am to
I can just add the pomegranate to my primary?
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 11/18/13 at 8:09 am to
quote:

You could just not rack to secondary. It's really not necessary.


how long is "too long" for a beer in a primary?
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