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Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by ZeekFreak
Member since Jun 2017
583 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:33 pm to
roux is stew or gumbo, you need new friends
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

roux is stew or gumbo


Or certain types of thick gravy. Or the base of a bechamel and 3 more mother sauces. The one way to skin a cat people on this board are hilarious.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50122 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

roux is stew or gumbo, you need new friends


You need to travel more...
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32458 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:00 pm to
quote:


No, it’s a gravy, just a different gravy than you’re accustomed to. Just because you in Lafayette don’t know anyone who does it differently doesn’t mean yours is the only one. You’re talking about a very regionally specific dish while being in that region. Of course people there make it the same way as you know how to make it.

I was speaking for myself when I said "If flour or roux is being added, then it's going to be a stew or gumbo". If I'm adding flour it'll be a stew or gumbo.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:27 pm to
Have y'all covered red gravy yet?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Have y'all covered red gravy yet?

You mean red sauce?
Posted by skygod123
NOLA
Member since Nov 2007
27882 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:00 pm to
My 2 cents... if the liquid is based on meat renderings and it has been thickened in any way (reduction or thickening agent such as corn starch or flour) then my mamma (who is not cajun. she mexican) called it a gravy.

If it was just the meat drippings, she called it jus.

And we have never made Roux at my house so I cant weigh in on when a sauce becomes a roux, but my best guess based on living here for 30 years and working in the food industry for the last decade... is that roux is a sauce made with fat and flour. So you all are all right.

But the OP's friend is stupid. I would happily eat duck cooked by not me and not be critical. I would also bring drinks to share with the class.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:03 pm to
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skygod123
holy shite!!!

Hope you are well
Posted by skygod123
NOLA
Member since Nov 2007
27882 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:12 pm to
I am! Just lurking for thanksgiving recipes instead of researching for my class assignments. procrastination because I have that holiday version of senioritis already.
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11806 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 6:35 am to
quote:

roux is for stew or gumbo


Same here. I've never even seen roux added to a gravy from roast meats. Too thick.
Posted by Lobo Apple Sauce
Member since Sep 2014
388 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:43 am to
Maybe she is thinking of red-eye gravy.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

You mean red sauce?
Exactly.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 2:46 pm to
I guess it depends on where you're from. I'm prairie cajun and I only use roux for fricassee, gumbo and stew. Regular rice and gravy, no roux.
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11806 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:16 pm to

I mean.. If you can't make a gravy without adding roux.. pauvre bête..
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

Regular rice and gravy, no roux.


One fricking dish is not indicative of something as diverse as gravy

Good Lord people on this board are so "my way is the only way" on every single dish
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11806 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 5:50 pm to
I'm sorry. Cajuns don't want you to be triggered.. but when we were taught to make what people call "a grease gravy", the most important thing, is not to muddy the gravy with extra flour, corn starch etc. it's purely the slow cooked renderings of the meat, (with as little fat or grease as possible) that are browned over a hot fire. We reduce with water or ice cubes whereas fellow frenchman, Julia Child's uses wine.
We know how to use flour to make roux for Gumbo.. hell, the only jar roux you get is Cajun made..
We use a bechamel to make etouffee.. These are Cajun dishes.
Milk gravy for biscuits in the morning, is not Cajun rice and gravy, we know this.
But if we're gonna put it over rice, and you add roux.. baby to a Cajun, that's stew.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 5:56 pm to
Can we please stop with the try hard triggered crap?

Cajun food is far from the only cuisine in the world. What you were personally taught doesn’t mean anything to anyone but you. There are tons of different types of gravies. Just because you were taught there was just one doesn’t mean others don’t exist. There are Indian gravies, there are Italian american gravies, there are southern gravies that aren’t Cajun etc etc etc.

You make one type of gravy and that’s good for you, but it isn’t the only type of gravy just because you think it is.
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11806 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 6:11 pm to
We need a triggered emoticon.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 6:16 pm to
We need to ban 13 year olds from posting

It’s called discussion. It’s what adults do.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11806 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:08 pm to
A block button would also be nice.
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