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re: F&D board fail .... Off the Hook closing up shop

Posted on 7/22/10 at 6:43 am to
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 7/22/10 at 6:43 am to
I don't think he's talking about Johnny D's, spy ..
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/22/10 at 6:44 am to
dude .. sad to say .. but this is no different than a good, local mom & pop business shuts down because of lowe's or home depot ...
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
11389 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 7:46 am to
Good Luck Jason, that is a pretty tough location to put a start-up restaurant/seafood store. The quality of the food made it last as long as it did. I was hoping you would grow to become the SE BR Tony's.
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
6424 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 8:59 am to
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that is a pretty tough location to put a start-up restaurant/seafood store


I agree. We talked to some other people who owned (in the past) around us and they said they never could get any evening business in this location. The only thing that may change that is the hospital they are building but that won't get completed for 2 or more years.
Posted by DoctorTechnical
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2987 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 9:17 am to
Jason are you still serving lunch today (Thur)?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58308 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 9:21 am to
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It's always a damn shame when good local places that help define the area close down. Especially when there are waits to eat at Olive Garden, Golden Corral, and Joe's Crab Shack.

Thinking the same thing when I read this. It's just a good thing we didn't lose one of our myriad of different McChain restaurants littering this city. I mean, what ever would we do?
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in other news... Olive Garden still packin em in...
You people are retarded. this placed was placed in a small nook by a car dealership on the edge of town. You could bearly see it if you could find it. The reason this "chains" do well is cause of their location. you put anything in front of the mall, or right off one of the busiest interstates in the nation with a huge sign, you will do well.

maybe he should have coughed up more dough on the front end and bought/leased some prime real estate
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58308 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 9:35 am to
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maybe he should have coughed up more dough on the front end and bought/leased some prime real estate


Could you be just a little bigger prick?
how is that being a prick??? i just gave a option that could have helped the business fair better....I the pricks are the ones that bitch about all the chain restaurants succeeding. The succeed not because of the food, but because of their business strategy.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 9:37 am to
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oohh i understood that, but why cant he just stay open as a restaurant then? frickstick??? you are the one to talk yat.


Because his restaurant sells the products he gets for wholesale. His location certainly didn't help but he's on one of the busiest roads in all of Baton Rouge. It's not his fault people in that area would rather drive up the road to Hooters or Whataburger instead of going right down the road to get some good seafood. As whole, I'd say Baton Rouge is just a shitfest when it comes to good seafood in general. He'll do much better if he takes his show to the West Bank.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61281 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 9:41 am to
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The succeed not because of the food, but because of their business strategy.


Fair point.
My thinking is that they succeed because they market to the ignorant masses and are highly succesful and fooling people into thinking they are getting a good deal or a good product.

Heaven forbid someone think for themselves about finding a good local place that might be a quarter of a mile off of the main hwy and doesn't depend on a $50 million marketing stratagy by a corporate headquarters located in Florida.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52207 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 9:54 am to
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I'd say Baton Rouge is just a shitfest when it comes to good seafood in general.
Disagree.There may not be great seafood on every corner, but that's the case for any other locale in the state, too.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 9:56 am to
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Can't miss a shot at Baton Rouge can you...

BTW... I notice Red Lobster still seems to doing pretty good near Lakeview.

sorry couldn't resist


No, I love BR. But you can't tell me it's a mecca for seafood. In Metairie, Kenner, Chalmette, N.O., Gretna, Westwego, Braithwaite, Waggamen, etc. you can go to just about any gas station and get some pretty good seafood. It's just not that way in BR. Hell, even the big seafood restaurants, i.e. Mike Anderson's, Parrains etc, are average at best. The best place up there is Louisiana Lagniappe and maybe Juban's but it's awfully hard to find a po-boy or plate worth a shite.


eta: As for the Red Lobster comment. Is that really shocking? It's not like we don't have shitty eaters down here too. It's just that we have so many other options.
This post was edited on 7/22/10 at 9:59 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58308 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 10:00 am to
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No, I love BR. But you can't tell me it's a mecca for seafood. In Metairie, Kenner, Chalmette, N.O., Gretna, Westwego, Braithwaite, Waggamen, etc. you can go to just about any gas station and get some pretty good seafood.
well they are closer to water than BR......uummm i wonder why you can get better seafood?

Hey guess what you can get better crawfish in Lafayette than you can in Monroe. Imagine that.
This post was edited on 7/22/10 at 10:04 am
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 10:03 am to
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well they are closer to water than BR......uummm i wonder why you can get better seafood?


Come on man. Those areas ship seafood all over the world. You can't tell me they can't make a stop 90 miles up the fricking road. Baton Rouge just can't seem to break away from all the other college towns molds I've seen.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 10:05 am to
stop
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you can go to just about any gas station and get some pretty good seafood. It's just not that way in BR



well hell know, we know better than to get our seafood at the gas station...






Thats where we get our boudin....


touche
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 10:06 am to
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well hell know, we know better than to get our seafood at the gas station...






Thats where we get our boudin....


touche





Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58308 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 10:08 am to
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As for the Red Lobster comment. Is that really shocking? It's not like we don't have shitty eaters down here too. It's just that we have so many other options.
WOW Yat...you just gained some respect from me, FWIW. I usually hear oohh thats in Metairie, not New Orleans. Then they clain they are from New Orleans when they gre up in Kenner. Sorry for the side topic.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37594 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 10:13 am to
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oohh i understood that, but why cant he just stay open as a restaurant then? frickstick??? you are the one to talk yat.


You didn't read the thread did you?
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 10:14 am to
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WOW Yat...you just gained some respect from me, FWIW. I usually hear oohh thats in Metairie, not New Orleans. Then they clain they are from New Orleans when they gre up in Kenner. Sorry for the side topic.




There's no denying that we have our share of chains down here. Especially in the Metairie/Kenner area.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58308 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 10:32 am to
when me and yat were keeping things on topic and freaux comes in with this bs, you chastise me?
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
6424 posts
Posted on 7/22/10 at 11:10 am to
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You people are retarded. this placed was placed in a small nook by a car dealership on the edge of town. You could bearly see it if you could find it. The reason this "chains" do well is cause of their location. you put anything in front of the mall, or right off one of the busiest interstates in the nation with a huge sign, you will do well.

maybe he should have coughed up more dough on the front end and bought/leased some prime real estate


The only problem is that prime real estate is sky high. Rent at some of those places can run $10,000 plus and is hard for a restaurant to start out with that much overhead unless they have financial backing or a loan which is impossible right now.

And we got it for both wholesale and retail. We thought because it's on airline we would have sufficient traffic (which we do) and that it would take a few years to grow our business with the restaurant. But the wholesale went down leaving the restaurant to cover all the overhead. Believe me if we would have known that we would have done things differently. Business is a big risk in general.
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