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re: downtown baton rouge resturant scene

Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:07 pm to
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Great restaurants cannot survive on the weekday lunch crowd alone. They need dinner and weekends. Downtown was going decent on friday and Saturday nights for a short while there in the late 2000’s/early 2010’s, but Mayor Broome purposefully killed it to stiff her political rival John Delgado.


1. Broome and the open container law and stepping up enforcement of it (or enforcing it at all). There was chatter that the bar owners were asking for that, but if that's true the bar owners failed to see the forest through the trees.

2. The city council taking heat for the new developments downtown not having affordable housing causing painfully slow development.

3. Downtown development was increasingly seen as racist by the BLM factions of the political left throughout the 2010's (BLM movement, and "why aren't we doing this in NBR"), and a misuse of tax dollars by the political right. Kip-type Democrats and young professionals near the political center were squeezed by both ends.

4. The parking lot on by the Hilton (Florida/Lafayette) started enforcing the parking fees. That lot for a while that was "known" to be free parking outside of normal business hours during the 2008-2016 period. Can't really blame the parking lot owners, but it did make everything down there $5-$10 more expensive, and got rid of the option of just catching a ride home and picking up your car the next day if you were too drunk to drive.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Mayor Broome purposefully killed it to stiff her political rival John Delgado.


Posted by yattan
Member since Nov 2013
897 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:19 pm to
I always considered downtown part of north Baton Rouge.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10539 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:40 pm to
I was born in Baton Rouge and lived there all the way through my time at LSU. In 2014 I moved to NOLA and have since lived in Dallas and Austin. I think the problem BR has with it's Downtown scene, in general, comes down to these things:

1. Downtown needs to be more of a destination. Or at least, downtown needs to be more connected to where people are in the city. In particular, the corridors between downtown and LSU should be targeted as development zones. Nicholson has started cleaning up its act over the last 10 years. It would be nice if Highland Rd could look similar and extend beyond the North Gates of LSU. This would create more traffic between LSU and downtown and ultimately lead to more people...

2. People need to live downtown. I lived in BR for 23 years and I don't remember ever hearing anyone, at LSU or otherwise, stating that they couldn't wait to move downtown. It sounds like a little progress has been made on this front as some people have mentioned new developments happening down there, but this is so important. Millenials all across the country have been giving up the suburban dreams of their parents to move into more densely populated urban areas. It seems like BR already missed this trend, but it's never too late. To have a thriving downtown you can't survive on business lunches and the occasional tourists alone. You need people living there. The downtown grocery store is a great first step. More businesses need to move down there, more retailers need to be there, and in general, the option to have a walkable lifestyle where you live, work, and go out downtown needs to become a viable option.

3. Parking isn't the problem. There is plenty of parking downtown. BR just has the mindset that if you can't park in a giant lot in front of the place you want to go, parking is a problem. People complain about parking at Mid-City Beer Garden and it has a full parking lot. A good downtown bar and restaurant scene doesn't need open container freedoms as much as it needs an area with a density of options. You can't have that with huge parking lots. Third St was at its best when you could walk up and down the street and there were bars on every block. Think places like Rainey St in Austin or Lowest Greenville in Dallas. Neither of those places is particularly friendly to cars but people flock to them because they have a lot of options in one area.

4. Downtown needs a cornerstone set of restaurants and bars that you can't miss. Stroube's got a little love for a while and Little Village has done fine, but can you name a single place downtown you'd want to take someone who has never been to BR? Most people would go to a different part of town. The downtown scene needs something it can build around - it looked like 3rd street was that something 10 years ago but now they have to start from scratch.



This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 8:59 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53516 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:54 pm to
Downtown is also pretty isolated from most of the population growth. Mid City has gentrified some, and of course LSU isn't far, but the rest of the city has grown further south and away from downtown.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10539 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:57 pm to
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Downtown is also pretty isolated from most of the population growth


This is what I was trying to get across. I forget about mid-city as it's really boomed since I left. Keeping that going all the way down Government would be huge.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51916 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:10 pm to
Is Bald Eagle still open?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53516 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:37 pm to
I'm not 100% sure. I've heard of it but I've never been.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51916 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:02 pm to
Was the only good dive left downtown. Haven’t been in a year or two
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83021 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:09 pm to
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Was the only good dive left downtown


RIP Hound Dogs
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51916 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:15 pm to
Yup. Miss that place so much.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78315 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:20 pm to
Marazils became Rasputins. Both of those places were packed during the peak of downtown circa 2006. Same with Parrot Beach where Canes is now.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51916 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:34 pm to
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peak of downtown circa 2006

That wasn’t the peak of downtown BR really. A few years later imo
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78315 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:42 pm to
2009-2013?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51916 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:17 pm to
Lasted longer than that. Maybe 2015-16?
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10539 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:21 pm to
Around 2010-2013 it was still a very popular nightlife spot. May have stretched a few years on either end of that (I was too young before then to go out downtown and left after that).

It seems like 1913 was the last place that set up shop down there before it started to unravel. That was probably, what, like 2015?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51916 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:25 pm to
I lived in Spanishtown from 2013-2015 and Beauregard Town until 2017 and the death knell was probably around late 2016.

Still could have a great time down there but more shite was closing than opening.

Me and my wife went to Happy’s for a game last year and it was absolutely dead. And it’s by far the biggest bar left downtown.

Kip had it going pretty well.

It’s done for awhile now.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 11:26 pm
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10539 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:28 pm to
What happened to all of those places on 3rd street?

Are they no longer bars at all or just vacant now?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51916 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 12:11 am to
Most are still vacant as far as I know
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 7:48 am to
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Downtown seemed to be improving 10-12 years ago and then it came to a screeching hault. I wonder why?


One power hungry, racist bitch “swept” away all the progress her predecessor made.
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