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Digital/electronic payment systems...just WHO is it that actually benefits ?

Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:08 pm
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
11554 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:08 pm
First ALL the sports leagues/organizations now... Gretna Fest and Jazz Fest...one screwed up system after another ! Just WHO is the major benefactor of these crappy systems ? Do they speed up the sales process...NO Do they lower the price for the consumer...NO Do they somehow benefit the vendor...? Is someone getting paid off to force these systems down peoples throats ??
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79686 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:10 pm to
Makes sure every transaction is counted (no cash).

Makes taxes easy; realize that Jazzfest uses to have auditora that had to go to each vendor.

Just like casinos, you part the spender from actual money. They spend more.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:34 pm to
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Makes sure every transaction is counted (no cash). Makes taxes easy; realize that Jazzfest uses to have auditora that had to go to each vendor. Just like casinos, you part the spender from actual money. They spend more.


It’s actually probably an easier than that…. Almost no one carries cash anymore so digital/electronic payments are necessary if they want sales.

Also, for large events with lots of temporary workers you can really cut down on theft when there is no cash to steal.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61773 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:09 pm to
With Jazzfest it was a major operation for them to keep up with all the cash. I know with the beer booths they would send armed security to the booths several times a day to make pick ups. The staff needed to record and track the cash each day must have been pretty big.

So I kind of get it, but JF should share a little of the cost savings with the vendors as I’m sure they are now getting hit with the credit car transaction fees.
Posted by MetrySaint24
Metairie
Member since Nov 2018
742 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 5:08 am to
If Vendors are smart they will just raise their prices 10-20% to cover the 2.5% processing fees and come out ahead. Although not being able to stuff 25% of cash sales in their pockets without paying taxes will hurt them across the board. If you think about the demographics of the entire fest there were certainly a few segments who came to Jazzfest with a certain amount of cash and spent no more than that. Now that it's card only the average spend per person will jump. It's not good for society or America, but in the long run or maybe even short run they will make more money and save time and money dealing with all the cash and preventing theft of any sort.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64497 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 6:21 am to
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Almost no one carries cash anymore so digital/electronic payments are necessary if they want sales.


Chicken/egg here.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37457 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 6:52 am to
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Chicken/egg here.


I would think that most people in today’s world would have to go out of their way to get cash. With direct deposit, and even mobile check deposit I really never have cash unless I specifically go to a bank/atm and withdraw it.
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:25 am to
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just WHO is it that actually benefits


The owner - Jazzfest, Gretna Fest, superdome food vendor and drink vendor company, etc.

Jazzfest didn't go cashless to make things easier, they did it so they could make sure they were collecting all the money they could. JF controls the beer inventory, if the booth is short, the booth pays for the shortage, JF is made whole. This could be controlled prior to cashless because JF knew what your inventory was at the start and end of each day.

But prior to being cashless, food vendors could sell food for cash and pocket it. JF wouldn't know and wouldn't get their cut. Now that it's cashless, all food vendor sales get recorded and JF takes 20% or so of the gross revenue.
It's all about money for whoever is in charge.
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 8:30 am
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16891 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:59 am to
I read this in the smoking caterpillar voice from Alice and Wonderland.

Thanks for the giggle.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2788 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:17 am to
quote:

With Jazzfest it was a major operation for them to keep up with all the cash. I know with the beer booths they would send armed security to the booths several times a day to make pick ups. The staff needed to record and track the cash each day must have been pretty big.


Its primarily about profits for JF...but this was a huge deal. Most people never knew there was a huge bank for vendors in the grandstand with serious security. I was told the amount of cash going through that bank on a busy JF day was equivalent/greater than a triple crown horse race. Not sure I believe that but still getting rid/downsizing the cash bank is a big deal.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79686 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:22 am to
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Although not being able to stuff 25% of cash sales in their pockets without paying taxes will hurt them across the board.


That wasn't how taxes were calculated
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:28 am to
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Most people never knew there was a huge bank for vendors in the grandstand with serious security.


Oh yeah.
1 beer booth can handle $30-$50k per day.
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