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Corned beef brisket question

Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:59 pm
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:59 pm
I picked up a corned beef brisket at the store today. I'm thinking of cooking it on my smoker but I've never done one. I've done normal brisket before, but not one of these. I'm not sure why it would be any different. Anyone here have any experience doing it this way? Thoughts?
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 6:05 pm to
Corned beef is brisket that is cured and cooked (not smoked).

Pastrami is brisket that is cured and smoked (and has a peppercorn rub).

Yes, smoke the corned beef like a brisket and you will have pastrami.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 6:09 pm to
6aB si right, smoke it like a brisket since it is one. Use a rub you want.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 6:19 pm to
Currently smoking one now. Soak it in water for a couple hours or else it will be salty. The traditional way of cooking it (in liquid) coaxes out the salt. The smoker will not.
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 6:20 pm
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 6:20 pm to
Id soak over night, changing the water out at least 3x
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 6:46 pm to
Thanks everyone!
Posted by Brisketeer
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Soak it in water for a couple hours or else it will be salty.


Yep. I found out the hard way.
Posted by Xanthus
Member since Dec 2021
273 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

cooking it on my smoker


Corned beef brisket is heavily salted/brined for weeks. Plain brisket is best for smoking.

Below is a good method for corned beef brisket. Plus extra if you want to make Reuben sandwiches.


CORNED BEEF BRISKET (easy, easy)

5-6 pounds pre-brined brisket flat

Gravy Master browning and caramelizing seasoning (or Kitchen Bouquet)

Canola oil

Pickling spice (use the pack from the pre-brined brisket + more if you like - McCormick pickling spice in a jar)

Celery (3-4 stalks), carrots (6-7 medium), onion (1 large), lots of garlic, water (a cup or two)
Preheat oven to 275 degrees. Remove brisket and pickling spice packet from bag, rinse thoroughly and dry off. Heat oil in skillet, coat the brisket with Gravy Master, sear brisket on both sides for 5-10 minutes each side.

Cut up celery, carrots, onion, and peel the garlic. Add to a roasting pan with a cup or two of water. Set wire rack on top of vegetables, arrange brisket on wire rack. Sprinkle pickling spice on top of brisket. Cover roasting pan with heavy aluminum foil and seal tightly.

Roast in the oven for 5-6 hours, do not open the foil during cooking. Remove from oven, do not open foil, let brisket rest covered for 30 minutes.

RUSSIAN DRESSING (for Reuben sandwich)
3/4 cup mayonnaise
1/3 cup chili sauce
2 tbsp sour cream
2 tsp chopped parsley
1 tbsp+ minced onion
1 tbsp+ minced dill pickle
1/2 tsp lemon juice
1/2 tsp horseradish
1/4 tsp Worcestershire sauce

REUBEN SANDWICH
Rye bread
Corned beef, sliced thinly
Russian dressing
Sauerkraut
Swiss cheese
Butter for grilling the sandwich (like grilled cheese sandwich)
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 9:40 pm to
Why would uncured brisket be better for smoking than cured brisket? There’s nothing wrong with smoking cured brisket.
Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
2239 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 9:52 pm to
What I don’t understand is we are talking about warming up something. The corned beef is already cooked? It won’t take any smoke.

Do what you want.
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 9:54 pm
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 8:35 am to
Corned beef in a deli is cooked. It’s usually made from rounds and not brisket. It’s injected with cure and cooked in a bag. Then removed from the bag and packaged for delis to slice. I’ve seen thousands processed.

But they also sell raw corned beef brisket in a bag with brine. It’s designed for you to take home and cook in a pot like a roast. Groceries put them on sale for St Patricks Day.
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 8:39 am
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83165 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 8:52 am to
quote:

The corned beef is already cooke


Corned = brined. Not cooked. The corned beef you buy at the grocery store is raw. That’s what I assume OP has.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 9:00 am to
Yes, that’s what the OP has. But you can also buy deli corned beef for sandwiches. Just like ham or roast beef. That’s what the other poster is confusing it with.
Posted by Xanthus
Member since Dec 2021
273 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 11:00 am to
quote:

nothing wrong with smoking cured brisket


You're right. It's a preference to start with plain whole brisket for smoking, and season/prepare it in house. Rather than use a corned brisket flat.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Pastrami is brisket that is cured and smoked (and has a peppercorn rub).


+ toasted coriander
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76075 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Yes, smoke the corned beef like a brisket and you will have pastrami.



No, do not smoke it like a brisket. Cold smoke it like you would cold smoke salmon or cheese.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111616 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 1:57 pm to
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quote:
Yes, smoke the corned beef like a brisket and you will have pastrami.



No, do not smoke it like a brisket. Cold smoke it like you would cold smoke salmon or cheese.


As I understand it, traditional deli style pastrami is typically cold smoked THEN steamed. You will have to do something with it after cold smoking, if you go that route. I don’t know how you’d do a good home steamed setup, though.
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
2199 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 9:00 pm to
So I figured I'd give an update. I soaked the brisket in water for about 3 hours before smoking. It wasn't enough. It was still extremely salty. It was good other than being way to salty, and I have a fairly high tolerance for salty stuff. If I could make it less salty I'd definitely do it again. For those wondering, this was an uncooked brisket in a bag.
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