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Buffalo Trace vs RNDC discussion

Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87952 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:46 pm
I have watched a couple videos on this, and have come to the conclusion that I do not know enough about the industry to really understand the significance of this.
BT fires RNDC and Sazerac sues RNDC.

So, what's really going on here, and does this mean there will be any changes in availability of the products in La?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:24 pm to
The list of Sazerac products is really long, many things you might even not realize are Sazerac products are owned by them like Taka, Firefly, Fireball, Meyer Rum, Margaritaville tequila, etc, etc. Last Year Republic lost some of the Sazerac most well-known bourbons to Glazer. Stuff like Eagle Rare, Pappizzz, etc, but kept other brands like Buffalo Trace, Sazerac and Stagg.

Goldring owns Sazerac and lives in NOLA, he owns a lot of beer distributors around the country. He has sold the beer distributors off to his son and now can consolidate his large collection of alcohol into the distributor now owned by his son.

We will have to see if this is better for the customers in the long run. I haven't seen a Glazer rep in my place in 1.5 years and they won't sell me any Sazerac products, won't tell me what I need to do to sell them, so I'm at an inpass with Glazers in regard to Sazerac products.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37458 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 4:17 pm to
Is Glazers picking up the distribution of what Republic had? Someone mentioned to me that it was going to some smaller distributor who handled mostly beer, but I don't know if they were referring to Glazers, or someone else.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 4:22 pm to
It is moving to Cresent & Crown, they currently distribute a lot of beer, big names are Miller and Coors
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23706 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 5:31 pm to
Glazers has been straight garbage to smaller independents the last year just trying to keep the basics in stock. Also making excuses not to deliver store picks for months. F them
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291613 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:50 pm to
There will be no noticeable changes. People don’t realize items such as the allocated bourbons are not in high supply to the wholesaler to begin with.
Posted by MetrySaint24
Metairie
Member since Nov 2018
742 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:20 pm to
Glazers now has 5 divisions hence 5 different reps if not more per account. It's essentially impossible to navigate it to get the allocations you want unless you are close with people in Glazers that are up the food chain. The reps can't do anything for you, you have to speak to managers in each division and you have to know exactly what those divisions have. If you ask your Glazers rep for something allocated they don't have the authority or the knowledge to make much happen, also if it's something in a different division they don't even rep it technically so you really aren't going to get anywhere. They have grown so big that 1) they don't care about Louisiana at all. 2) They don't care about smaller independent accounts.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:25 pm to
I ageee with all of that. I buy everything I can from small distributors, but the big boys have stuff you have to buy.
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1719 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

I haven't seen a Glazer rep in my place in 1.5 years


I am sorry to hear that. I worked for Glazers years ago (pre-great southern merger) and I made that Maurepas run every Tuesday for 2-3 years. I would make it a point to stop in on every account that way weekly/bi-weekly even though the volume for most on premise accounts was pretty light. RIP Kevin.

I would not be surprised if Mike with RNDC is still running that area
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

I would not be surprised if Mike with RNDC is still running that area


He is still down here and is my rep.
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1719 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

He is still down here and is my rep.


Lol, that’s good to hear. That is a perfect example of the difference between Glazers/RNDC. A lot of my buddies who have stayed in the industry long term have migrated to RNDC over the years. Glazers changed how they pay their reps and have experienced a ton of turnover.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:40 pm to
If a business has a brand that sells itself, like Tito’s or makers, then perhaps they don’t need a sales person, but I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be represented by Glazers if I am trying to grow a brand
Posted by MetrySaint24
Metairie
Member since Nov 2018
742 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:32 pm to
The problem is Glazers has acquired about 80% of the brands you have to have.
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