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Bought my first Japanese chefs knife, wow

Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:10 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80727 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:10 pm
So on my home chef journey I started over a decade ago, my first purchase was a "good" chefs knife. I went with a JA Henckels $150 8" chefs knife. It's a durable beast that I thought held and kept a decent edge and was thick enough to take a pounding. It was fine.

Through the years, people have recommended Chef Knives To Go as a good resource to get professional grade Japanese style knives with good steel. I even recommended the site myself because the prices seemed reasonable and the forum there is helpful. But never bought one myself assuming I wasn't good enough to get the best out of a great Japanese knife.

Well, I bit the bullet a few days ago and ordered this "good value" Gyuto for $200:



LINK


It's made by a younger up and coming knife maker in Japan named Makoto. It came in the mail today along with a combo sharpening stone and few other accessories.

I already had dinner plans, but wanting to take it for a test drive and pulled out an extra small white onion I had lying around.

Sweet. Fancy. Moses. This thing is fabulous.

I get my knives sharpened relatively regularly, but my Henckle has NEVER been this sharp or handle this well.

I highly recommend upgrading to a Japanese knife. It's going to make a better cook over night, and speed up cooking times no doubt.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43531 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:16 pm to
I want to upgrade from my knife but I'm cheap. Is this one that you have to keep dry or is it more forgiving?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80727 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:20 pm to
From the site:

quote:

Makoto-san has used Aogami Super steel as the core element and wrapped it with a softer stainless steel. This makes for a really great combination of super carbon edge abilities in an easy to maintain and rugged exterior. The AS hagane is hardened to 62+ HRC which bestows the blade with the ability to take and hold a super sharp edge.



I take relatively good care of my things, but this is stainless coated which is much more forgiving than all reactive carbon.

So I think you'd be fine with stainless coated. It's supposed to be best of both worlds.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43531 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:28 pm to
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So I think you'd be fine with stainless coated. It's supposed to be best of both worlds.




Yep ....I'm pretty anal....except when I'm not. But really, I take good care of my chefs knife but get intimated by the carbon stuff. I do let my knife site for 30 minutes here or there
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80727 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:36 pm to
There's some great value on that site. For $150-$200, you can get a very nice knife.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:55 pm to
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I get my knives sharpened relatively regularly, but my Henckle has NEVER been this sharp or handle this well.



Nor has your Henckle ever been as brittle, both have their place.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80727 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:59 pm to
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Nor has your Henckle ever been as brittle, both have their place


We'll see over time.

I'm sure I'll bring out the Henckels for some tasks.
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:05 pm to
Yeah watch out before you snap that tip off . Japanese knifes are sharp but delicate. I love them, but I can’t tell you how often I pull out the trusty wusthoff when I just want to get to business
Posted by Duane Dibbley
Red Dwarf
Member since Nov 2011
1787 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

I want to upgrade from my knife but I'm cheap.

I was the same as you, not wanting to spend a lot on something I would have to baby. Then one day I needed a new knife and said screw it.
I found a Nakiri for 75 dollars, it's the the best knife I've ever owned. At first I babied it, but now it's treated as just another knife.
It's the same construction as the OPs knife, stainless around a Aogami Super steel core. The handle felt small at first but I adjusted.
They have a Gyuto 180mm for 80 dollars, it's out of stock right now but you can sign up for Email notification for when it's back in stock.

My knife...Dojo Hayashi AS Nakiri 165mm



The Gyuto...Dojo Hayashi AS Gyuto 180mm

Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138834 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:11 pm to


I have this one

Konosuke HD2 240mm guyoto
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43531 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

Then one day I needed a new knife and said screw it.


Right on!
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

I love them, but I can’t tell you how often I pull out the trusty wusthoff when I just want to get to business



This, for some folks it will not matter as they dont chop bone and only slice veg and pre cut meat but if you do be very careful with most Japanese blades.

There is no knife that is perfect for everything, sorry fanboys.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80727 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:21 pm to
I rarely chop bone, so looks like I'll be good.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74474 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:56 pm to
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This, for some folks it will not matter as they dont chop bone


Yes, it will not matter bc they own a cleaver and don’t chop bones with a chef knife
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46672 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 8:03 am to
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Sweet. Fancy. Moses. This thing is fabulous.


Welcome to the club baw.

My first was an Anryu Blue #2, and it's still my favorite.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:53 am to
I've found I have a strong preference for Japanese knives, too. Current knife is a Dahlstrong. A steal at ~$130, imo. I have pulled out my Wusthof from time to time when cutting something especially firm but, 98% of the time, I'm using my Dahlstrong. It really makes prepping fun, which I never thought I would say.

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