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re: Are these real Cohiba cigars?

Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by lilwineman
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
1053 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:48 pm to
Who told you that about black ash? They were blowing smoke up your arse...pun intended. Black ash comes from typically lower quality and poor nutrient soils. White and gray ash with white streaks are signs of higher quality tobacco and a properly rolled cigar.

From the looks of your cigar up top, it's hard to tell. You'll be looking for a triple cap at the top, bands that are aligned perfectly as they don't put on a shitty ban to a great cigar. The color of the wrapper is on par as well.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
24074 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Some of my favorites come from Nicaragua and Dominican Republic. A friend once told me, Cubans are still making the best cigars in the world, just not in Cuba


He is absolutely right.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:59 pm to
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OP here is a link to help identify your package. 
Ok, I'm drunk and can't figure out shite from that link.

Can you?



Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23706 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:02 pm to
i was totally blowing smoke. you got me
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

The IV would be shorter, anyway
They're actually very long. Over 7".
Posted by lilwineman
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
1053 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:33 pm to
Genuinely looking longer your box raises questions. The stamp on the bottom is barely visible, the warranty seal is placed on there quickly, as mentioned it's usually halfway through the first crest where it creases. There is no visible dating of numbering system to the box no the other traditional habanos seals.

In my "I used to work in a cigar shop for many years" opinion, there is a likely possibility those aren't actually real. In the end, if you enjoyed it, what does it really matter.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:40 pm to
Yeah, I see the same things you're mentioning, but it's a damn good smoke regardless.

Maybe it's the half bottle of Buffalo Trace I drank
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 10:42 pm
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
14067 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:59 pm to
So far the box is fake so the stogies likely are too...but if they smoke good then smoke em.

Stamp isl wrong. If you have a black light check the seal
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 11:08 pm
Posted by lilwineman
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
1053 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:00 am to
He doesn't have the required seal on the box to verify the goods sadly. The verification barcodes are fairly new and those boxes come with holographic seals and excessive measures to prevent counterfeit nowadays.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34343 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:38 am to
Ok, so now I too am sober and can give it a better look. The box brand stamp looks wrong. If it is legit, the paper seal will have a hologram. The lettering suggests that they are from 2001.

Again, if it was a good smoke who cares.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9481 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 11:19 am to
Likely fakes...

Missing the Habanos SA tag applied to the corner of the box. The labeling on the bottom of the box should be burned in and not ink. Holograms on the Cuba sticker have been standard for several years. The serial number on the label can be entered at the Habanos SA website for verification as well and your label doesn't fit the usual numeric profiles.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 11:27 am
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10867 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 11:48 am to
Can't be authentic. The box doesn't have a glass top.

*A lot of folks won't get this joke.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
14067 posts
Posted on 5/18/16 at 12:11 pm to
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The serial number on the label can be entered at the Habanos SA website for verification as well and your label doesn't fit the usual numeric profiles.


That one can not be checked on there site. That is the correct look from 1999 to 2009...but it should also have a hologram that you can only see via a black light. In 2009 it was changed to the current style with the hologram on the end and numbers you can check on there site. But yes its missing the one sticker and the bottom stamp is off...not hot stamped...Habanos is not centered correctly.

It should look like this...with the factory code and month/year they were made (missing in this pic)




They are fakes...but still could be good. The problem comes in when some of the ones making them use the tobacco scraps that fell on the floor of the factories to make them. Then you get all kinds of trash to smoke as well.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 12:20 pm
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