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re: Any not your father's root beer sightings?

Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:40 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:40 am to
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My issue isn't with the beer so much is your attitude towards me and it. Why do you care so much what i think about it? Slow day on the rant or something?


Once again, your personal opinion of it does not concern me in the least. Try reading.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:43 am to
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Serious question, can you read?


No i can't. But i have the uncanny ability to type out full words and sentences without the ability to read.

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My issue has never been with you disliking it.


So your issue is with my 1st post, where i said that you can like what you like. I then said that it is a terrible beer.
Ok, i can see how you think that is hypocritical. If i would have said "I think it's a terrible beer" would you stop being so angry?

Then, i followed that post up clarifying what i intended, then you continued going after my 1st post.

So again, slow day on the rant or what?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:44 am to
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Once again, your personal opinion of it does not concern me in the least. Try reading.


Then why are you concerned over what some random anonymous internet guy says about a drink you may or may not like?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:45 am to
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Then why are you concerned over what some random anonymous internet guy says about a drink you may or may not like?


The same reason you're concerned what people think about it in the first place. Except I don't sit here and pretend I'm not doing what you're doing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:46 am to
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Then, i followed that post up clarifying what i intended, then you continued going after my 1st post.


Actually, I went after your post where you acted like Wise's post had any relevance to me thinking you were a hypocrite. It's OK though, I've been willing to let this go for a while, let's see if you can handle that.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 10:47 am
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:48 am to
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The same reason you're concerned what people think about it in the first place


Not concerned, just voicing my opinion on the matter.

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Except I don't sit here and pretend I'm not doing what you're doing.


I'm not coming after you, lunch. You are clearly coming after me. Have a beer and relax.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:49 am to
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Actually, I went after your post where you acted like Wise's post had any relevance to me thinking you were a hypocrite.


What? What are you talking about now?

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It's OK though, I've been willing to let this go for a while, let's see if you can handle that.


Clearly....
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:53 am to
"This thread gave me brain cancer"-caplewood
Posted by Hold my beer
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:55 am to
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I've been in some of their warehouses and they simply do not have it. Small Town Brewery is about the size of Mudbug. This brand has taken off recently and I doubt they predicted that.


I can literally walk in to any 7-11, grocery store, or liquor store in the Chicago and surrounding areas and buy as many cases as I want of this beer.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:57 am to
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don't try and tell me something is good, when i've had it and can tell you for certain, it is pretty bad.


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Taste is subjective to the individual. Maybe I should have spelled that out better.


Posted by bosoxjo13
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
3249 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:03 am to
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Any not your father's root beer sightings?
"This thread gave me brain cancer"-caplewood




That shite they are trying to call beer will do the same.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:13 am to
I could be wrong. I got it from the inter webs. My fitness pal site I think
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:14 am to
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AlxTgr


You are about 2 hours late in this thread chief.
Posted by jmarto1
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Member since Mar 2008
33901 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:20 am to
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I currently carry Zeigenboch at my on premise and have done so for about two years.


Never mind, now I get it...



Never open a business that sells beer. Just because you do not like it doesn't mean it doesn't sell. My guests are the ones that I am catering to. It's taps that sell volume that allow you to have more variety. I feel like I'm probably wasting my words here though.




Yes, such a massive set up.


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Small Town was located in the second floor of an old warehouse building. If memory serves, the first floor was occupied by a woodworking shop. The Small Town floor had been an indoor sports/recreation facility of some kind. Making our way to the small corner that the brewery occupied, we wound through a labyrinth of defunct batting cages and possibly an indoor mini-golf course. I recall it being a little bit creepy.

Although expansion plans ultimately had the brewery filling the entire floor, at the time it fit in just two small rooms. The “aging” area where full kegs were stored wasn’t even finished. It was framed, but no drywall had been hung. That space is where they planned to install a distillery. The brewery was in a small, but finished room with a cold box to one side.

The brewhouse consisted of two, 50-gallon, Groan soup kettles – the kind you would see in a commercial kitchen – and two 100-gallon plastic fermenting tanks. The various pieces were linked together with white PVC pipe (cue the sound of brewers cringing). In the cooler was a row of small, stainless steel conditioning tanks. An apartment sized stove served to stew vanilla bean and other spices that went into the root beer.


LINK
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 11:34 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:20 am to
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You are about 2 hours late in this thread chief.
Not really, scooter.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52784 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:35 am to
How does that guy supply so much beer?

I know he's only making one kind but that stuff distributes EVERYWHERE including wal mart.
Posted by bosoxjo13
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
3249 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:37 am to
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How does that guy supply so much beer?

I know he's only making one kind but that stuff distributes EVERYWHERE including wal mart.


Sarcasm, right?
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:44 am to
If you knew anything about brewing and read the rest of the article you would know this guy is completely full of shite.

From the same article...

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The brew-in-a-bag method involves conducting the mash with the crushed barley malt in a big mesh bag. When the mash is complete the bag is simply removed and drained. This allows the brewer to mash and boil in the same vessel. It is a fairly inefficient method, meaning that the brewer extracts less sugar from each pound of grain than with other more conventional methods. Some brewers sparge, that is they rinse the grains with hot water to remove additional sugar, which would increase efficiency. But when Kovac talked me step-by-step through his process he made no mention of this. With this in mind, I based my calculations on an assumption of 65% mash efficiency, which without a sparge step is maybe a bit generous.

Kovac told me that he was making all-grain wort, using 100 to 110 pounds of grain for each 50-gallon batch. He reported a starting gravity for the root beer of 1.200. By my quick and dirty calculations, 100 pounds of grain gives a gravity of 1.055. He would need more like 400 pounds of grain to hit 1.200, which would vastly exceed the capacity of his kettle. I assumed then that he was using malt extract or some other sugar to boost the gravity of his wort. When I asked about that, he insisted that he was not using extract, but admitted that he was using “malt powder.” So…extract. I estimate that he would need approximately 165 pounds of dry malt extract to go from 1.055 to 1.200. Again, there would be no room in his kettle for liquid.

Then there is the matter of fermentation. It isn’t impossible to get yeast to ferment up to 20% alcohol, but it is terribly difficult. Although yeast creates alcohol as a by-product of fermentation, that alcohol is poisonous to it. As the alcohol level increases, the ability of yeast to do its job decreases. Beyond around 15%, our favorite fungus starts to sputter and die. It takes constant babying to get beyond that. Kovac claimed he was doing just that, rousing and re-aerating the beer to see the yeast through a seven-day fermentation. Having seen his setup, I find it hard to believe that he was accomplishing this feat with any degree consistency and without creating some pretty terrible off-flavors.

And so, I found Kovac’s process description to be confusing at best, suspect at worst. But he really didn’t seem like a guy who was out to intentionally deceive. Without having actually seen what he was doing, I could only take him at his word.


Did he start there, probably, but if you think what is hitting you taps was brewed there you are fooling yourself.

ETA:
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They secured a deal to contract brew Not Your Father’s Root Beer at City Brewing in La Crosse, Wisconsin. There appears to be some squishy relationship with Phusion Projects LLC, the makers of such delights as Four Loco, Moskato Life, and Signature Cocktails. The brand has apparently been sold wholly or in-part to Pabst Brewing. I’m sure the Small Town guys made a pretty penny on the deal.


Good for this guy if he made a shite ton of money selling his business. Now just be honest with people when you sell your foro loko root beer.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 11:47 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Member since Sep 2009
29184 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 12:04 pm to
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Is there a right or wrong in this thread?


If you are wrong then I want to be wrong on this too.


If loving you is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
Posted by LSUcdro
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2009
11126 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 12:04 pm to
Not reading all this BS

Im staying on the thread topic, if thats what the thread is even about still

Got 40 cases of cans at Calandro's on Perkins
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