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re: Aging Beer
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:34 am to Geauxld Finger
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:34 am to Geauxld Finger
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fyi don't lay beers especially belgians on their side. always stand them upright.
These guys must be complete morons.
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:34 am to BugAC
quote:Shared a 13 Bourbon Country with a friend and it tasted great to me, the flavor about knocked me friend on the ground as he is just getting into craft beer. Other than that the only think I've had that I aged (remember I've only been into craft beer a year now) is a 13 pumpkinator and I liked it better aged than when it was fresh. Again though I keep everything in a closet and not fridge.
Have you tried any of your aged stuff?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:39 am to Geauxld Finger
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fyi don't lay beers especially belgians on their side. always stand them upright.
Why not? Cantillon bottle conditions all of their beer on it's side...
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:40 am to CSB
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These guys must be complete morons.
All those beers are ruined... please ship them to me for proper disposal...
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:42 am to LSUGrad00
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please ship them to me for proper disposal
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:46 am to BugAC
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I have a dedicated beer fridge in my garage. I have beers for immediate consumption, and beers that i age. What i have been finding, recently, is that any beer aged for up to a year or more, just tastes bad.
I age beers just bc I find it interesting to see how the flavors change over time. Sometimes it works out, other times it doesn't. Doing side by side tastings of the same beer is just enjoyable to me.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:11 pm to BugAC
I've tasted plenty of aged beers that have either improved or at least evolved into something enjoyable in a different way over time. There are styles other than sours that age well. Some sours aren't great candidates for aging either. Some have been proven to age well for a long time. Some shouldn't go any longer than five years.
With all styles it is important to understand what happens to the flavor impact of certain additions/ingredients over time and think about how that will affect the flavor profile compared to fresh. Certain adjuncts fade quickly, some linger or transform. Different wild yeasts do different things, high alcohol levels, barrel flavors, etc.
And I definitely disagree with your assessments of aged BCBS and Grand Reserve.
With all styles it is important to understand what happens to the flavor impact of certain additions/ingredients over time and think about how that will affect the flavor profile compared to fresh. Certain adjuncts fade quickly, some linger or transform. Different wild yeasts do different things, high alcohol levels, barrel flavors, etc.
And I definitely disagree with your assessments of aged BCBS and Grand Reserve.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:13 pm to urinetrouble
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And I definitely disagree with your assessments of aged BCBS and Grand Reserve.
You can't really disagree unless you tasted the bottles i had. I'm not saying all aged beer is crap. All i'm saying is that the ones i had were crap and it may be because they were aged in a fridge for over a year.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:17 pm to BugAC
I would think the fridge is the key, I've noticed my outdoor fridge makes certain beers taste different the longer they sit. Someone once told me that because it is outdoors it works harder and temp fluctuates (I have no idea if this is even true) and that's why they tend to taste different.
I keep a thermometer in the fridge and setting on 1 but it gets extremely cold during the summer months.
I keep a thermometer in the fridge and setting on 1 but it gets extremely cold during the summer months.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:19 pm to LSUGrad00
everythime i laid bottles down on their sides i had way more sediment in my beers than i did had they been stored standing upright. Just my two cents as i have had issues doing just that.
In any case i really don't see the point on cellaring. Almost every beer i have tried after cellaring was totally under whelming.
In any case i really don't see the point on cellaring. Almost every beer i have tried after cellaring was totally under whelming.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:23 pm to Geauxld Finger
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In any case i really don't see the point on cellaring. Almost every beer i have tried after cellaring was totally under whelming.
Well, brewers disagree with you. I have multiple bottles of beers with best after dates.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:27 pm to BugAC
Fair enough, I just don't think there would be a big difference such that it would hurt the beer. As far as I know, colder temperatures just delay the aging process.
Maybe you only enjoy those beers when they have some fresh hoppiness to them.
Maybe you only enjoy those beers when they have some fresh hoppiness to them.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:29 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Posted by Geauxld Finger
everythime i laid bottles down on their sides i had way more sediment in my beers than i did had they been stored standing upright. Just my two cents as i have had issues doing just that.
Do you even lambic basket bro??
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:37 pm to urinetrouble
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Maybe you only enjoy those beers when they have some fresh hoppiness to them.
That doesn't explain why they up tasting with the exact same funk as mine have if they are too old. I'm starting to think it's just the fridge, and am upset that i may have ruined all the beers i was saving.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:03 pm to BugAC
I store my cellared beers in a dark room, temp controlled with whatever the A/C is set on. Opened a 12 punpkinator last month and was the best punpkinator I've ever tasted. Helps tone down the spices which help that beer tremendously. Also have some BCBS and its variants, parabola, ten fidy, expedition, and other stouts. I find some (kbs) are better fresh while I prefer BCBS with a year or two of age.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:18 pm to Dav
Y'all think it's ok to store my agers in a closet after it's been refrigerated for so long? Or has the damage been done already?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:30 pm to BugAC
Depends on how long....
If they've been in 2+ months I would think damage would be done
If they've been in 2+ months I would think damage would be done
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:41 pm to tduecen
I still don't understand what damage could have possibly been done to a sealed bottle by storing it in a cold dark refrigerator.
Constant cold temperatures in a dark location is pretty much the ideal environment for slowing down the aging process of your beer.
Constant cold temperatures in a dark location is pretty much the ideal environment for slowing down the aging process of your beer.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:43 pm to LSUGrad00
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Constant cold temperatures in a dark location is pretty much the ideal environment for slowing down the aging process of your beer.
That's what i thought too. I'll do some research.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:44 pm to BugAC
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2. It’s possible to speed up the aging process.
Sysak: “Yes, the higher the cellar temperature the quicker the beer will mature. If you keep beer in your refrigerator with a temperature of 35 to 40 degrees, the aging process will be slowed—ideal for hoppy IPAs, pale ales and low ABV lagers. If you place your beers at classic cellaring temperatures, 50 to 60 degrees, they will age quicker. This needs to be a gradual process. You can’t take a bottle out of an ice bath then let it sit out in your backyard for a week in the summer and expect good results. I’ve actually aged the same vintage of cellarable beers at three different temperatures simultaneously with great results.”
From Draft Mag.
Well then i don't know why my aged beers are getting that musty flavor. Maybe they need to warm a bit outside the fridge.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 1:45 pm
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