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re: 1998 Vintage Dom Perignon

Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:01 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:01 am to
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Even cellard correctly that’s not going to be good anymore.


Well now, this just isn’t true at all. But if the OP has his doubts, he can send the bottle to me, and I will discard it for him.
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:32 am to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:01 am to
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5 million bottles average Dom Pérignon per vintage


And there have been 42 vintages since 1921. They only produce the wine in good years and age for at least 7 years. That's a lot of time and money invested in the final product hence the price.

My whole point is that it doesn't just have a price on it for shits and giggles, although there are better champagnes for far less than what Dom costs.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32829 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:56 am to
You're already flirting with a 98 vintage being past its prime. Combine 21 years with it not being stored properly and I would sell or drink it ASAP, as I would be willing to bet it started declining in quality several years ago.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:17 am to
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Combine 21 years with it not being stored properly


please tell me how it has not been stored properly.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 11:18 am
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32829 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:27 am to
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please tell me how it has not been stored properly.


You posted that you kept it at "room temperature" in a "cabinet". Not only is room temperature too warm for long term storage of champagne, but the temperature of that cabinet likely fluctuates twenty+ degrees throughout the year (think of how low you set your thermostat when you go out of town in the winter and how high you set it when you go out of town in the summer, then remember that your cabinet has no vents and is likely well outside those min/max temperatures). For wine to age properly, temperature consistency is extremely important, even more so than "correct" temperature.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 11:28 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:29 am to
You want to store it at 55° or at least without fluctuation.

I would just chill it, open, and taste. Selling it would not make anything really.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104003 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:35 am to
I honestly have no idea how the 1980 bottle I have was stored for most of its life... I certainly haven't been able to keep it at 55 without any fluctuation since it was given to me.

Guess I should just open it up and see.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32829 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

I honestly have no idea how the 1980 bottle I have was stored for most of its life... I certainly haven't been able to keep it at 55 without any fluctuation since it was given to me.

Guess I should just open it up and see.


Wine "storage" is something that I find gets too little and too much consideration. While that sounds contradictory, I mean it as follows:

For the average person who is going to keep a bottle of wine for a year or two before drinking, as long as you keep it away from light and don't let it get too hot, you're probably fine. You don't need a wine fridge to store that bottle you just bought from Whole Foods (they are still useful in getting the bottle to a precise serving temperature, but that's not particularly relevant to the current conversation).

But if you actually want to age wine 5, 10, 20+ years, the storage environment becomes extremely important. The difference between a wine fridge that costs a few hundred dollars versus one that costs a few thousand is all in the details. The more expensive option will keep a much more consistent temperature and humidity level and will have practically zero vibration (which is a huge problem with normal refrigerators that can wreck a wine over the aging process). So unless you're willing to make the investment, long term storage/aging isn't really feasible.

But, the silver lining is that the overwhelming majority of wines should be consumed within five years of bottling, anyway. People believing that age improves every wine forever is a myth that just won't die, apparently.
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