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re: Mississippi River Flooding - Links & Pictures in 1st Post
Posted on 5/3/11 at 9:59 am to ScottieP
Posted on 5/3/11 at 9:59 am to ScottieP
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Look a few pages back some one linked an interview with the author of Rising Tide(book about 1927 flood) he explains it better.
Will do. I have that opened in a tab. Just haven't gotten to read it yet.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:00 am to prostyleoffensetime
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What about Angola? Will the prison be evacuated?
yes
it has already begun from what i'm hearing
but like i posted earlier, most of the prisoners will be relocated to higher ground within angola
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:00 am to Geauxtiga
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Unstrap your boat from the trailor and be prepared to make a quick get away.
It's old.
It's beat up.
It's paid for.
It's insured.......
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:01 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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They are related. Higher water levels equals higher flow rates if the velocity is constant. I would think flow rates are used because they are a more accurate measure of whats going on. 40 feet of stagnant water is bad, but it won't erode anything like 35 foot of water hauling arse.
ETA: That was an educated guess BTW. I'm no expert.
Makes sense.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:10 am to LSUJuice
The advocate this morning said that they'd require sandbags in downtown Baton Rouge. There's a part of the levee that will be topped otherwise.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:12 am to uzzy
so when is the big flood coming?
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:13 am to cchele1
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so when is the big flood coming?
Should be never.... as long as stuff works as designed
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:14 am to tetu
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tetu
Also, like scottie said, 1000000 CFS is 1000000 CFS no matter what else is going on. It's a much more accurate representation of whats going on because the river changes depth and width constantly. Each section of the river can only handle so many CFS before shite's coming over the top or the pressure is to great and you get catastrophic failure.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 10:21 am
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:22 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Also, like scottie said, 1000000 CFS is 1000000 CFS no matter what else is going on.
Scottie doesn't know
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:23 am to Croacka
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Scottie doesn't know
Bout cubic feet per second or fiona and me
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:24 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
well, that was quick
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:26 am to Croacka
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well, that was quick
Couldn't help myself. I loled in the middle of a crowed lobby
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:27 am to Croacka
quote:i just came in on this part. but as the water rises this CFS will stay constant but the velo will reduce. that is of as you say the CFS will remain constant.
Also, like scottie said, 1000000 CFS is 1000000 CFS no matter what else is going on.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:31 am to CarRamrod
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the velo will reduce
I suspected that. Are they proportional? I don't see how they can be close enough to proportional to keep the flow rate constant.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:40 am to LSUJuice
Don't think that opening Morganza alone with do any serious damage to infrastructure. River changing course would do serious damage but that is what everyone is trying to control and very probably will succeed.
Rumor has it that crest at Morganza will exceed the hight of the locks (not higher than the road but higher than the lock, meaning water will overtop the locks). If the crest is as projected, it should be about a foot and a half below the top of the levee at Morganza. Opening the floodway would likely drop the level below Morganza 3 feet or more. Supposedly dropped four feet when opened in 73. But remember, it was only opened in 73 because Old River was getting ready to give way. This crest will be higher than 73, though. Farmers in the spillway area behind the Morganza lock have begun to move equipment out of the floodway area. Water is expected in the forebay (betwen the levee and the lock) in the next few days.
I think the only real dangers are the chance of losing the Old River structure and the new one should be stronger and better than the old one, and the chance of a levee breach, which is pretty unlikely.
Rumor has it that crest at Morganza will exceed the hight of the locks (not higher than the road but higher than the lock, meaning water will overtop the locks). If the crest is as projected, it should be about a foot and a half below the top of the levee at Morganza. Opening the floodway would likely drop the level below Morganza 3 feet or more. Supposedly dropped four feet when opened in 73. But remember, it was only opened in 73 because Old River was getting ready to give way. This crest will be higher than 73, though. Farmers in the spillway area behind the Morganza lock have begun to move equipment out of the floodway area. Water is expected in the forebay (betwen the levee and the lock) in the next few days.
I think the only real dangers are the chance of losing the Old River structure and the new one should be stronger and better than the old one, and the chance of a levee breach, which is pretty unlikely.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 10:41 am
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:44 am to dinosaur
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losing the Old River structure
That's what I'm scared of more than anything
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:46 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
well yea it is directly proportional to the cross section of river channel.
but like i said i dont know what yall were talking about when i read that.
but like i said i dont know what yall were talking about when i read that.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:47 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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That's what I'm scared of more than anything
Seems like they would have learned their lesson from 73 and did the necessary upgrades to prevent the possible loss of the ORCS or being unable to close Morganza. From what I can tell that would be the only way shite will get really bad down here.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:51 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The Low Sill structure at Old river was permentantly damaged in 1973. The auxillary structure was built to take pressure off of it. I supposedly can only maintain a maximum of 22 ft of head between the Mississippi and Atchafalaya. There is a head of 17.8 ft today. I work on the river in Reserve and it is really starting to roll.
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:57 am to dinosaur
Morganza opening seems almost inevitable at this point.....
Already sand boils around Farr park in Baton Rouge.
Already sand boils around Farr park in Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 11:00 am
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