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Posted on 5/3/11 at 9:59 am to
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 9:59 am to
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Look a few pages back some one linked an interview with the author of Rising Tide(book about 1927 flood) he explains it better.


Will do. I have that opened in a tab. Just haven't gotten to read it yet.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:00 am to
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What about Angola? Will the prison be evacuated?
yes


it has already begun from what i'm hearing


but like i posted earlier, most of the prisoners will be relocated to higher ground within angola
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87391 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:00 am to
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Unstrap your boat from the trailor and be prepared to make a quick get away.


It's old.
It's beat up.
It's paid for.
It's insured.......
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:01 am to
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They are related. Higher water levels equals higher flow rates if the velocity is constant. I would think flow rates are used because they are a more accurate measure of whats going on. 40 feet of stagnant water is bad, but it won't erode anything like 35 foot of water hauling arse.

ETA: That was an educated guess BTW. I'm no expert.


Makes sense.
Posted by uzzy
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2009
780 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:10 am to
The advocate this morning said that they'd require sandbags in downtown Baton Rouge. There's a part of the levee that will be topped otherwise.
Posted by cchele1
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2010
702 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:12 am to
so when is the big flood coming?
Posted by cheeriopiss
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2009
2142 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:13 am to
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so when is the big flood coming?


Should be never.... as long as stuff works as designed
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:14 am to
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tetu


Also, like scottie said, 1000000 CFS is 1000000 CFS no matter what else is going on. It's a much more accurate representation of whats going on because the river changes depth and width constantly. Each section of the river can only handle so many CFS before shite's coming over the top or the pressure is to great and you get catastrophic failure.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 10:21 am
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:22 am to
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Also, like scottie said, 1000000 CFS is 1000000 CFS no matter what else is going on.


Scottie doesn't know
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:23 am to
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Scottie doesn't know


Bout cubic feet per second or fiona and me
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
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61451 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:24 am to



well, that was quick
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:26 am to
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well, that was quick


Couldn't help myself. I loled in the middle of a crowed lobby
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:27 am to
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Also, like scottie said, 1000000 CFS is 1000000 CFS no matter what else is going on.
i just came in on this part. but as the water rises this CFS will stay constant but the velo will reduce. that is of as you say the CFS will remain constant.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:31 am to
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the velo will reduce


I suspected that. Are they proportional? I don't see how they can be close enough to proportional to keep the flow rate constant.
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1165 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:40 am to
Don't think that opening Morganza alone with do any serious damage to infrastructure. River changing course would do serious damage but that is what everyone is trying to control and very probably will succeed.

Rumor has it that crest at Morganza will exceed the hight of the locks (not higher than the road but higher than the lock, meaning water will overtop the locks). If the crest is as projected, it should be about a foot and a half below the top of the levee at Morganza. Opening the floodway would likely drop the level below Morganza 3 feet or more. Supposedly dropped four feet when opened in 73. But remember, it was only opened in 73 because Old River was getting ready to give way. This crest will be higher than 73, though. Farmers in the spillway area behind the Morganza lock have begun to move equipment out of the floodway area. Water is expected in the forebay (betwen the levee and the lock) in the next few days.

I think the only real dangers are the chance of losing the Old River structure and the new one should be stronger and better than the old one, and the chance of a levee breach, which is pretty unlikely.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 10:41 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:44 am to
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losing the Old River structure


That's what I'm scared of more than anything
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:46 am to
well yea it is directly proportional to the cross section of river channel.


but like i said i dont know what yall were talking about when i read that.
Posted by cheeriopiss
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2009
2142 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:47 am to
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That's what I'm scared of more than anything



Seems like they would have learned their lesson from 73 and did the necessary upgrades to prevent the possible loss of the ORCS or being unable to close Morganza. From what I can tell that would be the only way shite will get really bad down here.
Posted by JDT2008
Plaucheville, La
Member since May 2011
13 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:51 am to
The Low Sill structure at Old river was permentantly damaged in 1973. The auxillary structure was built to take pressure off of it. I supposedly can only maintain a maximum of 22 ft of head between the Mississippi and Atchafalaya. There is a head of 17.8 ft today. I work on the river in Reserve and it is really starting to roll.

LINK
Posted by uzzy
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2009
780 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:57 am to
Morganza opening seems almost inevitable at this point.....

Already sand boils around Farr park in Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 11:00 am
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