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Trade Proposal
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:45 am
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:45 am
I am in a 12 man league. I got lucky and wound up with Bijan, Derek Henry, Kamara, and David Montgomery. I am weaker on WR and TE. I proposed a trade of David Montgomery for Brandon Aiyuk, but he countered for me receiving TJ Hockenson. I have Higbee currently. Is that a good trade for me?
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:49 am to Tiger328
I think Aiyuk AND Hockenson is a pretty fair trade for Montgomery
I would NOT trade him for just Hockenson
I see the appeal of trading him for Aiyuk in your scenario since you already have 3 good RBs.
Who are your other WRs and is this a PPR league?
I would NOT trade him for just Hockenson
I see the appeal of trading him for Aiyuk in your scenario since you already have 3 good RBs.
Who are your other WRs and is this a PPR league?
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:57 am to Tiger1242
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I think Aiyuk AND Hockenson is a pretty fair trade for Montgomery
I would laugh if someone asked for Aiyuk and Hockenson for Montgomery. Come on now.
Monty for Hockenson is fine valuewise and makes your team better.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:04 am to DallasTiger45
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Monty for Hockenson is fine valuewise and makes your team better.
Are we talking about the guy who’s has ONE game over 6pts in a non PPR and is averaging 7.5 being a good trade for a guy who’s scored over 11 every game, averaging 19ppg and just scored 32?!?!?!?
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:14 am to Tiger1242
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Are we talking about the guy who’s has ONE game over 6pts in a non PPR and is averaging 7.5 being a good trade for a guy who’s scored over 11 every game, averaging 19ppg and just scored 32?!?!?!?
We're talking about trading RB19 ROS for TE3 ROS
Idk why you're talking about non PPR finishes when probably 95% of fantasy leagues use at least .5 PPR
I agree that OP leaving out the scoring system makes it harder for us to give good advice
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:22 am to DallasTiger45
I don’t know his scoring system but 95% of leagues don’t use a PPR format 
Either way, exactly what you just said, you’re talking about trading a RB who is #10 in a full PPR and #7 in a non-PPR even with a missed game. For ANY TE not named Kelce or Andrew’s.
It’s a stupid trade anyway you cut it, TEs are not valuable, there’s almost no chance Hockenson outscores Montgomery ROS unless Montgomery gets injured. Your lineup doesn’t care where your points come from.
I bet Higbee + Montgomery will outscore Hockenson + whoever his 5th RB is.
Now that being said, in his situation he doesn’t really need Montgomery, which is why I think trading him for Aiyuk makes sense.
Either way, exactly what you just said, you’re talking about trading a RB who is #10 in a full PPR and #7 in a non-PPR even with a missed game. For ANY TE not named Kelce or Andrew’s.
It’s a stupid trade anyway you cut it, TEs are not valuable, there’s almost no chance Hockenson outscores Montgomery ROS unless Montgomery gets injured. Your lineup doesn’t care where your points come from.
I bet Higbee + Montgomery will outscore Hockenson + whoever his 5th RB is.
Now that being said, in his situation he doesn’t really need Montgomery, which is why I think trading him for Aiyuk makes sense.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:20 am to Tiger1242
"I think Aiyuk AND Hockenson is a pretty fair trade for Montgomery"
LOL
LOL
Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:26 am to Tiger328
Honestly I would trade Henry and look for a better receiver option then what you are proposed or countered. Not bc of Tajae but bc the offense is terrible. Monty has a good chance to score every week ROS. You may be able to get more on name value coming off big week
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 11:31 am
Posted on 10/6/23 at 11:27 am to ZeekFreak
It’s 1 PPR and I have Keenan Allen and Calvin Ridley along with some lower tier WR
Posted on 10/6/23 at 12:29 pm to Tiger1242
quote:Yes, there are still terrible leagues out there.
I don’t know his scoring system but 95% of leagues don’t use a PPR format
quote:He didn’t say how many FLEX spots his league has, but Hock in starting lineup will definitely outscore Monty on the bench.
It’s a stupid trade anyway you cut it, TEs are not valuable, there’s almost no chance Hockenson outscores Montgomery ROS unless Montgomery gets injured.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:17 pm to Tiger1242
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It’s a stupid trade anyway you cut it, TEs are not valuable, there’s almost no chance Hockenson outscores Montgomery ROS
Posted on 10/6/23 at 9:35 pm to Tiger328
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David Montgomery for Brandon Aiyuk
not enough for monty imo.
this thread surprises me. i have aiyuk and don't even need a rb, but i would gladly trade him for monty. easily. if i had monty it would take two good players for me to even consider it.
monty is one of only a handful of rbs getting all the goal line work as a starting rb.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 4:38 pm to BhamTigah
Just bumping this to say Hockenson is the TE 12 this week in a full PPR tied with studs such as Jonnu Smith and Tyler Conklin who can be found on your waiver wire every week. He’s the TE 16 in a non-PPR with a whopping 51yds
Meanwhile David Montgomery is the RB 5 regardless of scoring.
Why the frick do you guys want to trade a RB1 for ANY TE not named Travis Kelce or Mark Andrew’s?
All TEs suck man, if you don’t have a top guy just play the waiver match ups you’re just as likely to get a good game. Please don’t trade an auto start RB for one of them
Meanwhile David Montgomery is the RB 5 regardless of scoring.
Why the frick do you guys want to trade a RB1 for ANY TE not named Travis Kelce or Mark Andrew’s?
All TEs suck man, if you don’t have a top guy just play the waiver match ups you’re just as likely to get a good game. Please don’t trade an auto start RB for one of them
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:08 pm to Tiger328
Not the best trade you can do.. but remember you can only play 3 running back max.
I just traded for hock myself and only gave up Christian Watson and courtland Sutton. I’d wait till for the asking price to go down. I also don’t like monty for aiyuk straight up although I feel that’s a minority opinion. The 49ers have a lot of mouths to feed, and have a great defense meaning they won’t be airing it out late in games or having crazy high shootouts.
Personally I try and find a better target with someone desperate for a rb. I would also trade Henry over Montgomery… especially if it’s ppr
I just traded for hock myself and only gave up Christian Watson and courtland Sutton. I’d wait till for the asking price to go down. I also don’t like monty for aiyuk straight up although I feel that’s a minority opinion. The 49ers have a lot of mouths to feed, and have a great defense meaning they won’t be airing it out late in games or having crazy high shootouts.
Personally I try and find a better target with someone desperate for a rb. I would also trade Henry over Montgomery… especially if it’s ppr
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:11 pm to DallasTiger45
Personally Monty is rb13 for me in my personal rankings. Derick henry is the lesser player and on the lesser team. If you’re desperate for a tight end (who is your tight end now btw)? I would see if he would take Henry instead
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:13 pm to Tiger1242
But you can only start 3 rbs max… so one of the 4 players he mentioned gives him zero starting value whereas hock would. Plus you can’t look at fantasy from a pure points per game standpoint.. gotta get analytical and look at the standard deviation of the position, the potential injury components, and rhe value over replacement formulas
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:15 pm to Tiger1242
Ehhh Montgomery’s a very low end rb1 but ahout the best rb2 you can get… why would you stream a tight end every week when/if you have the depth to get a top 4 player at his position… I’m of the mindset that as long you 7 rbs/wrs total (could be 4 rbs and 3 wrs or vice versa) every other player on your bench is pretty much worthless.. especially compared to a top 4 player at the position. Then you have to factor in that every week you are losing waiver priority for a streamed tight end and missing out on the can’t miss waiver wire adds.. if you chose to stream a te every week with first waiver choice you’d never have a shot at puka , k Williams, achanes of the world.. getting those 3 players alone could propel you to a championship with a decent draft or be used to trade for a Kelce/andrews… opportunity cost my man
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:22 am to Tiger328
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I am in a 12 man league. I got lucky and wound up with Bijan, Derek Henry, Kamara, and David Montgomery. I am weaker on WR and TE. I proposed a trade of David Montgomery for Brandon Aiyuk, but he countered for me receiving TJ Hockenson. I have Higbee currently. Is that a good trade for me?
TJ Hockenson is currently TE4 with 13.1 PPR points per game. Tyler Higbee is TE16 with 7.9 PPR points a game. And for the comment about streaming...I think Higbee's production is a pretty good approximation of what a streamer would give you.
We can quibble about Montgomery's value and whether he should ship out Henry or Kamara instead- but trading 1 of his 4 running backs for Hockenson would help his team score more points. I don't think that's really arguable.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 6:43 pm to Tiger328
I would probably keep all of those running backs. Depth at RB is good and bye weeks are coming and injuries will happen and it is a long season. The only one of those RB's I would trade is Henry and I wouldn't trade him for a TE. Rather than trade away good RB's I would work the waiver wire.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:10 pm to GeauxTigers6447
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I would probably keep all of those running backs. Depth at RB is good and bye weeks are coming and injuries will happen and it is a long season. The only one of those RB's I would trade is Henry and I wouldn't trade him for a TE. Rather than trade away good RB's I would work the waiver wire.
Pretty sound advice. I have Barkley, Achane, Walker III, Montgomery, Robinson Jr, and Sanders. Drafted all but Achane. All have been in my lineup at some point due to injuries. I’ve tried packaging various trades to improve at WR but can’t make it happen in a 10 team league with teams who desperately need help at RB. Damn sure ain’t giving them away.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 7:17 pm
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