re: TDFL

Geaux I'm looking to wheel and deal

yea, home plate grill has been there (since I lived in Houston). It's a restauraunt/bar type
place on the 2nd floor next to B.U.S

Joyner: Underrated fantasy QBs | RBs | Kiper: Top rookie picks, sleepers
Generally speaking, when it comes to NFL rookies, fantasy stardom isn't in the cards.

Cam Newton may have had one of the greatest statistical seasons for a rookie in NFL history in terms of raw fantasy stats in 2011, but if you owned him after a Week 4 loss to the Bears where he threw for 374 yards and ran for two touchdowns, you may have been a little disappointed. Not once after that game did Newton crack the 300-yard mark as a passer, and in seven of the remaining games, he threw one or zero touchdowns. But Newton had tremendous value as a runner, rushing for 10 touchdowns over the final 12 games.

Point being, rookies -- even the best ones -- are where you find value, not the linchpin in a great fantasy team. This season, Newton's average draft position is 17.4. The highest rookie? You can't find one until average pick No. 37, when Trent Richardson of the Cleveland Browns is coming off the board.

For this exercise, I'll mix obvious choices, guys I suspect may create some value and sleepers. I'll also point out some why-not cases, in which I'd advise you to stay away and not buy into the hype.

The obvious
QB Andrew Luck: In ESPN leagues, Luck is, on average, the No. 16 quarterback off the board, just behind Jay Cutler and just ahead of Alex Smith. This might sound optimistic, but I can see Luck putting up pretty significant totals (3,600-4,000 yards). He is going to look remarkably comfortable and familiar in Bruce Arians' offense right out of the gate -- the Colts did great work in the draft to find some weapons for Luck -- and the Colts will be playing from behind a lot this season. I don't think it's merely hype that has him being drafted higher than plenty of more established starters.

QB Robert Griffin III: I don't see RG3 putting up quite the same totals as Luck because he faces a steeper learning curve, but he does have a better set of weapons. Plus, Griffin can use his feet in the red zone -- though I can assure you the Redskins don't want games to turn into a regular display of RG3's running ability. I'd draft him lower than Luck, but he is being taken four quarterbacks earlier on average.

RB Doug Martin: He is being taken No. 30 among running backs, and I wouldn't put a 1,000-yard season out of the question for a healthy Martin. He is reliable as a runner, holds onto the ball (where LeGarrette Blount loses points) and will catch passes, adding value.

RB David Wilson: The Giants didn't take the explosive Wilson in the first round as an insurance plan. The stretch where Ahmad Bradshaw missed four games last season really limited the Giants running game, and I can see a 50-50 split in carries. Bradshaw has carried more than 175 times just once in five seasons. Wilson will pick up the other half.

Why not:

WR Stephen Hill: I know, I know. He is already a starter. But Hill has a lot to learn about more complex passing schemes and route-running, and the Jets are still finding ways to get Tim Tebow more involved in the offense. Suffice to say, "fantasy potency" and "Jets passing game" don't belong in the same sentence.

RB Trent Richardson: I don't doubt the ability; I just want to see him healthy. The Browns should be careful with him, and I suspect they will be.

Don't be surprised
RB Isaiah Pead: Ranked No. 64 on ESPN draft boards among running backs, Pead should be much higher. He gives the Rams running game the explosiveness it has lacked, and Steven Jackson's carry total dipped by 70 from 2010 to 2011. The Rams might want to see that number drop further. Pead could be a steal.

TEs Coby Fleener/Dwayne Allen: Combined, I can see this tandem catching 50-60 passes for 800-1,000 yards. Luck loves his tight ends, and these guys could be touchdown-makers, particularly in the red zone. I'd go with Fleener first, but don't sleep on Allen.

WR Alshon Jeffery: He has looked good early and becomes a constant matchup advantage if teams want to help on Brandon Marshall. I'm leery of saying Jeffery can be a big yardage guy this season because the Bears are determined to run better and spread the ball around in the passing game, but he could quickly become the No. 2 man behind Marshall and be a touchdown poacher.

WR Kendall Wright: If Kenny Britt gets suspended, Wright could pick up the slack. He is ranked No. 52 among wide receivers in selection order.

RB LaMichael James: Unless Alex Smith becomes a quarterback I haven't yet seen, there is no guarantee that the new additions to the San Francisco passing game will amount to more explosiveness for this offense. In handing the ball to James, as well as throwing to him, Jim Harbaugh can create big plays without asking Smith to stretch his comfort zone. I wouldn't be surprised to see James get his share of touches.

WR Travis Benjamin: You won't be taking Cleveland pass-catchers high in any draft, but Benjamin is a sleeper. I could see him getting a lot of Mohamed Massaquoi's reps and creating some big plays for an offense that could use them.

Why not:

WR A.J. Jenkins: The first-round pick is a fourth or fifth option in the San Francisco passing game. That doesn't scream fantasy value.

Sleepers
WR LaVon Brazill: A draft sleeper out of Ohio, he could get plenty of first-team reps this season on a team where Reggie Wayne and Austin Collie are the top wide receiver options.

WR Rueben Randle: He provides size and matchup problems that backups Jerrel Jernigan and Domenik Hixon don't. He could work his way into the mix early, and we have seen guys explode if Eli Manning finds a comfort zone with them. Hakeem Nicks' foot issues are also in play.

RB Cyrus Gray: This is a player with legitimate breakaway speed who dropped to the late rounds only because of health. Jamaal Charles is coming off an ACL tear, and Peyton Hillis lacks explosiveness and has a tendency to put the ball on the ground. Gray could get his shot at some point.

WR T.J. Graham: Buffalo could use some run-after-the-catch ability outside of splitting C.J. Spiller out, and Graham can flat-out fly. Chan Gailey should find some touches for him.

TE Michael Egnew: The Miami passing game could be limited by its quarterbacks, but Egnew could come on later because he has great hands and athleticism. A young quarterback can be helped by a tight end that not only separates but has a wide catch radius. That's Egnew.

WR T.Y. Hilton: Arians got the ball to a number of wide receivers in Pittsburgh, and if he floods coverages in Indy, Hilton could be a sleeper. He is probably a slot guy, but Hilton has plenty of explosiveness and run-after-the-catch ability.

TE Taylor Thompson: A defensive end in college, the Titans hope Thompson can be the next Antonio Gates or Jimmy Graham. With Thompson, it's all about the profile -- 6-foot-6 and 260 pounds for a guy who can really run. Don't grab him expecting anything soon, but he is a fun sleeper to watch.

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Released WR Michael Floyd, ARI

Acquired WR Austin Collie, IND

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:Kash:

McCoy can be had

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eta--lol..u poor..it's $2/mo

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the hassle of signing up isnt worth it

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Released WR Michael Floyd, ARI

Acquired WR Austin Collie, IND

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I made that exact move yesterday in another league.

I take it you don't want to move Brady then?

No. My bad for not seeing what you offered before making a move but I liked that deal.

Maybe ask geaux about a QB

so you saying i aint poor