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Keenan Allen

Posted on 9/2/17 at 6:38 am
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/2/17 at 6:38 am
What's everyone's thoughts on him? He has had some tough breaks the last couple years but is supposedly healthy as ever and ballin out.

When he's on the field he's a beast but should we be scared of his past? He could end up being the steal of the draft IMO.
Posted by MadDoggyStyle
Member since Feb 2012
3857 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 6:55 am to
He was my top pick in '16 late in the first round. He broke his leg or tore up a knee in the first game and now he is dead to me.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9288 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 7:20 am to
Wasn't one of his injuries a lacerated kidney? Don't hold that against him.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52896 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 7:40 am to
He's not injury prone. He's a top 10 WR with top 5 potential
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
20221 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:06 am to
Good receiver but don't sleep on Tyrell Williams. Very underappreciated #2 WR.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52896 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:24 am to
Tyrell only make Keenan better IMO.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
59562 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:34 am to
quote:

He's not injury prone


explain
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52896 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:54 am to
Lacerated kidney isn't injury prone. One season ending knee injury isn't injury prone. Is Jordy Nelson injury prone?
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 9:55 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116853 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Lacerated kidney isn't injury prone. One season ending knee injury isn't injury prone. I


1 doesn't equal 3

2 doesn't equal 3


But 1 plus 2 equals 3.



He also tore his knee up in college.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29868 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Is Jordy Nelson injury prone?


Yes
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52896 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:14 am to
quote:

He also tore his knee up in college.
not the same kind of injury
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163328 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:16 am to
Top 5? Nah

Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74538 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 12:54 pm to
If he plays 16 games?

His per 16 game avg is 96/1156/8, you're looking at 260 PPR points. Would've been good for WR6 last season. One of the better floor/ceiling guys if healthy IMO. Jarvis Landry on steroids

The ACL in 2016 and PCL in 2012 are two injuries that could possibly be linked to knee trouble. The kidney and clavicle obviously arent related and are just freak injuries
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163328 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:08 pm to
Volume monster but not sure that volume is still going to be there this season. They have more weapons now than they did. I think he'll be fine but I don't think you're getting the Rivers only has eyes for receiver. Not to mention they do have a running game now
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 1:09 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74538 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:30 pm to


quote:

think he'll be fine but I don't think you're getting the Rivers only has eyes for receiver.


I think it's the opposite. I'm not seeing these weapons that are going to steal looks from Allen

Philip Rivers' 16-game pace over last 2 seasons

w/ Keenan Allen: 5,328 yards, 34 TD, 12 INT

w/o Keenan Allen: 4,303 yards, 30 TD, 19 INT
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163328 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:50 pm to
Let's throw out last year's pace, that was 1 game. Come on now.

Tyrell is a legitimately good WR, not just a seat filler that benefited from injuries, Henry will continue to emerge, Gates still looms somewhat, and again they have an established running game that they definitely didn't have in prior years. Will they be a huge blow to his volume? Not huge but theres going to be a regression for those numbers

I like Keenan at his ADP, but I dont see top 5 potential
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74538 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Let's throw out last year's pace, that was 1 game. Come on now.


It's the 9 games combined, extrapolated over 16. That 1 game he did go 6/63 in 2Q

The TEs will leach each other's targets, they will continue to be the RZ guys - not really Allen's MO. Allen and Tyrell will operate like any other 1/2. There's a hierarchy of targets and i do believe it starts will slot (Allen) getting a ton. Even a slight regression to Allen's targets is still a shite ton of looks

Remember Tyrell jumped into Allen's slot position last year. He was PFF's 2nd ranked slot guy I do believe. Rivers loves that guy. Tyrell will bounce back outside. He's the one, based on WR positioning, that loses volume historically in Rivers offense


quote:

I dont see top 5 potential


I don't think we are far off here J but cmon!

116/1,217/8 stat line over his last 16 games, which would have made him last year’s PPR WR5 behind only Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Mike Evans, and Odell Beckham.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116853 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

not the same kind of injury


Why does that matter?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52896 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Why does that matter?
Alshon Jeffery is injury prone. Groin and hamstring. Keenan had different injuries on separate knees. He's not injury prone he's unlucky. There's a difference
Posted by Apache
San Diego
Member since Dec 2013
2831 posts
Posted on 9/2/17 at 5:09 pm to
Keenan Allen tore his ACL in a non-contact play. That defines injury prone.
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