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Keenan Allen
Posted on 9/2/17 at 6:38 am
Posted on 9/2/17 at 6:38 am
What's everyone's thoughts on him? He has had some tough breaks the last couple years but is supposedly healthy as ever and ballin out.
When he's on the field he's a beast but should we be scared of his past? He could end up being the steal of the draft IMO.
When he's on the field he's a beast but should we be scared of his past? He could end up being the steal of the draft IMO.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 6:55 am to tilco
He was my top pick in '16 late in the first round. He broke his leg or tore up a knee in the first game and now he is dead to me.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 7:20 am to tilco
Wasn't one of his injuries a lacerated kidney? Don't hold that against him.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 7:40 am to tilco
He's not injury prone. He's a top 10 WR with top 5 potential
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:06 am to Byron Bojangles III
Good receiver but don't sleep on Tyrell Williams. Very underappreciated #2 WR.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:24 am to Marciano1
Tyrell only make Keenan better IMO.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:34 am to Byron Bojangles III
quote:
He's not injury prone
explain
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:54 am to CBandits82
Lacerated kidney isn't injury prone. One season ending knee injury isn't injury prone. Is Jordy Nelson injury prone?
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 9:55 am
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:19 am to Byron Bojangles III
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Lacerated kidney isn't injury prone. One season ending knee injury isn't injury prone. I
1 doesn't equal 3
2 doesn't equal 3
But 1 plus 2 equals 3.
He also tore his knee up in college.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:25 am to Byron Bojangles III
quote:
Is Jordy Nelson injury prone?
Yes
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:14 am to wildtigercat93
quote:not the same kind of injury
He also tore his knee up in college.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 12:54 pm to BilJ
If he plays 16 games?
His per 16 game avg is 96/1156/8, you're looking at 260 PPR points. Would've been good for WR6 last season. One of the better floor/ceiling guys if healthy IMO. Jarvis Landry on steroids
The ACL in 2016 and PCL in 2012 are two injuries that could possibly be linked to knee trouble. The kidney and clavicle obviously arent related and are just freak injuries
His per 16 game avg is 96/1156/8, you're looking at 260 PPR points. Would've been good for WR6 last season. One of the better floor/ceiling guys if healthy IMO. Jarvis Landry on steroids
The ACL in 2016 and PCL in 2012 are two injuries that could possibly be linked to knee trouble. The kidney and clavicle obviously arent related and are just freak injuries
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:08 pm to GynoSandberg
Volume monster but not sure that volume is still going to be there this season. They have more weapons now than they did. I think he'll be fine but I don't think you're getting the Rivers only has eyes for receiver. Not to mention they do have a running game now
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:30 pm to BilJ
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think he'll be fine but I don't think you're getting the Rivers only has eyes for receiver.
I think it's the opposite. I'm not seeing these weapons that are going to steal looks from Allen
Philip Rivers' 16-game pace over last 2 seasons
w/ Keenan Allen: 5,328 yards, 34 TD, 12 INT
w/o Keenan Allen: 4,303 yards, 30 TD, 19 INT
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:50 pm to GynoSandberg
Let's throw out last year's pace, that was 1 game. Come on now.
Tyrell is a legitimately good WR, not just a seat filler that benefited from injuries, Henry will continue to emerge, Gates still looms somewhat, and again they have an established running game that they definitely didn't have in prior years. Will they be a huge blow to his volume? Not huge but theres going to be a regression for those numbers
I like Keenan at his ADP, but I dont see top 5 potential
Tyrell is a legitimately good WR, not just a seat filler that benefited from injuries, Henry will continue to emerge, Gates still looms somewhat, and again they have an established running game that they definitely didn't have in prior years. Will they be a huge blow to his volume? Not huge but theres going to be a regression for those numbers
I like Keenan at his ADP, but I dont see top 5 potential
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:12 pm to BilJ
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Let's throw out last year's pace, that was 1 game. Come on now.
It's the 9 games combined, extrapolated over 16. That 1 game he did go 6/63 in 2Q
The TEs will leach each other's targets, they will continue to be the RZ guys - not really Allen's MO. Allen and Tyrell will operate like any other 1/2. There's a hierarchy of targets and i do believe it starts will slot (Allen) getting a ton. Even a slight regression to Allen's targets is still a shite ton of looks
Remember Tyrell jumped into Allen's slot position last year. He was PFF's 2nd ranked slot guy I do believe. Rivers loves that guy. Tyrell will bounce back outside. He's the one, based on WR positioning, that loses volume historically in Rivers offense
quote:
I dont see top 5 potential
I don't think we are far off here J but cmon!
116/1,217/8 stat line over his last 16 games, which would have made him last year’s PPR WR5 behind only Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Mike Evans, and Odell Beckham.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:28 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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not the same kind of injury
Why does that matter?
Posted on 9/2/17 at 3:27 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:Alshon Jeffery is injury prone. Groin and hamstring. Keenan had different injuries on separate knees. He's not injury prone he's unlucky. There's a difference
Why does that matter?
Posted on 9/2/17 at 5:09 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Keenan Allen tore his ACL in a non-contact play. That defines injury prone.

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