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re: FSBDL Championship: 8th Seed RDR wins Ship
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:11 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:11 am to Lester Earl
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Rendon is going to lose 2B elig at this rate too
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Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:13 am to Lester Earl
He's been hampered by injuries which has hurt his consistency
You're risking getting hurt rendon and shite Heyward, but if they're the good version, it's a win
You're risking getting hurt rendon and shite Heyward, but if they're the good version, it's a win
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:14 am to GynoSandberg
I think everything depends on how much you value Shipley and Eovaldi going forward.
If you're trading pitcher(s) for pitcher(s) before the deadline, I think you have to consider that it looks like we are leaning towards removing IP as a category this offseason. That seems to be a popular opinion in the league. If we replace that with another ratio category (like breaking up whip into two categories as previously discussed), then it can be argued that quality over depth at SP becomes that much more important after this season. If that's the case, give me Harvey, Walker and Lester (for his remaining years) over the two he just traded for. I admit I am not big on Shipley though and don't value that part of the trade as highly as I do Lester if IP isn't a consideration going forward.
If you're trading pitcher(s) for pitcher(s) before the deadline, I think you have to consider that it looks like we are leaning towards removing IP as a category this offseason. That seems to be a popular opinion in the league. If we replace that with another ratio category (like breaking up whip into two categories as previously discussed), then it can be argued that quality over depth at SP becomes that much more important after this season. If that's the case, give me Harvey, Walker and Lester (for his remaining years) over the two he just traded for. I admit I am not big on Shipley though and don't value that part of the trade as highly as I do Lester if IP isn't a consideration going forward.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:16 am to TTownTiger
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how much you value Shipley
Best case fantasy scenario: SP3
Worst case fantasy scenario: Spot starter
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and Eovaldi
Poo.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:17 am to TTownTiger
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I think you have to consider that it looks like we are leaning towards removing IP as a category this offseason
I wouldn't bet on that. There was a good bit of pushback from some owners that they assembled their team under the notion that IP was a category.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:18 am to reddman
I don't value those guys at all. They aren't good imo
To me it's rendon Baez for Donaldson and Heyward for Lester
That's fair to me as is.
To me it's rendon Baez for Donaldson and Heyward for Lester
That's fair to me as is.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:18 am to reddman
I agree with that, Redd. So if we are removing IP, which seems to be a real possibility, then I prefer the quality of Lester over the depth of a possible 3rd and poo.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:20 am to reddman
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I wouldn't bet on that
Gotcha. Must not have noticed that in the discussion
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:20 am to reddman
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assembled their team under the notion that IP was a category.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:22 am to Lester Earl
With the staff I currently have, I have no problem removing IP if we can agree on the new category(ies). I'm just relaying what I've been told by some others. We can review it in the offseason.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:23 am to reddman
I actually like it.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:23 am to Lester Earl
And I know you laugh, but some owners put less of a priority on pitching when they assembled the team because they figured they could just go for the counting stats (IP, QS, SvHd) each week.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:24 am to reddman
You can't ever change IP at this point
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:25 am to PortCityTiger24
We will want IP removed in 3 years when all our 32 year old SPs suck.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:41 am to GynoSandberg
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You can't ever change IP at this point
Its somewhat of a running joke between a few owners in DATBL that, by the time any changes to that league officially take place, we'll be long gone and our kids will be running the league. Same issue - even if we all mostly agree with a category/roster change, no one agrees on when to implement the change because teams are built on the current league rules and not on what's being proposed.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:55 am to TTownTiger
Dynasty is a different animal
You can prepare in a keeper bc you can plan ahead a year so everyone can make changes. Here, you theoretically can set your roster up forever - meaning you load up pitchers from the draft
You can prepare in a keeper bc you can plan ahead a year so everyone can make changes. Here, you theoretically can set your roster up forever - meaning you load up pitchers from the draft
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:58 am to GynoSandberg
Yap. We've been trying to get up to a 6 man rotation for the playoffs and long term. Take away innings, all you need is 3 or 4 SPs and load up on RPs. It'd be hard AF to convert or lineup for that rule change.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 11:25 am to TTownTiger
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I think you have to consider that it looks like we are leaning towards removing IP as a category this offseason.
And where is ths coming from?
Posted on 7/28/16 at 11:41 am to GynoSandberg
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Dynasty is a different animal You can prepare in a keeper bc you can plan ahead a year so everyone can make changes. Here, you theoretically can set your roster up forever - meaning you load up pitchers from the draft
Oh I definitely agree. As someone who decided before last trade deadline to go on a year and a half mission to completely rebuild my team from the ground up, I definitely understand the difference on reshaping a dynasty team compared to a keeper regardless of if the rebuild is for a scoring category change or just because your original team sucked (which was definitely my case). I was more or less joking about every league complaining about rule changes.
But your point, which again I agree with, brings up a possible issue: If it states in the league constitution that a rule change agreed upon by a certain % of the owners means the league implements the change, wouldn't we still need to leave the IP category to a vote if someone presents it? Even if the argument against a change is sound logic & the meaning of what a dynasty league is, which I believe is exactly what you're saying, wouldn't it still be overruled by majority vote? If not, whats the point of having that league vote nugget in the constitution in the first place if its just ignored based on "its a dynasty league you should have built your team that way in the draft."
Posted on 7/28/16 at 11:43 am to dj30
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And where is ths coming from?
The topic has been discussed ad nauseam in the past. I believe it had a lot of supporters and was going to be looked at this offseason.
Edit: Redd said there were many against it. I think I missed that in the previous discussions because it seemed like it had more supporters. I probably jumped the gun when saying we are "leaning toward" a change.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 11:47 am
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