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re: Voter ID's

Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:31 am to
Posted by braindeadboxer
Utopia
Member since Nov 2011
8742 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:31 am to
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We have some amount of the first two of those, but almost none (31 out of over 1 Billion votes cast over 12 years per 1 look) of the third type - in-person voter fraud.


You are out of your Goddamned mind if you buy into that.

I bet you believe that no one buys steak and seafood with EBT cards as well.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:31 am to
some select democrats are afraid to show their ID to a government official.


because they have warrants out for their arrest.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62330 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:33 am to
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The legislative record actually justified the elimination of one of the two days of Sunday voting because “counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black” and “disproportionately Democratic.”


Whose quote is that. Have you been caught lying again?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62330 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:34 am to
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Why don't you want minorities to get an ID?


Because he wants to be able to round up a group of minorities on election day, give them names to vote under, and then have them vote under the assumed name with no requirement to prove who they are.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26604 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:34 am to
Good job. Stating what the appeals court judge wrote is much more effective than the lies you were spouting earlier in the thread. You've correctly stated that the democratic appointed appeals court judge found circumstantial evidence of discriminatory intent in the voter ID law.

That's a far cry from what you posted earlier in the thread.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Whose quote is that.


The State of North Carolina's. In Court. Trying to justify their racist law using racism.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46601 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:34 am to
No one is buying this snake oil anymore so don't waste your breath. States have offered completely free ID's and dems still protest. We all know what this is really about, and HRC campaign insiders admitted it on the O'Keefe tapes.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:34 am to
I just read your link. Maybe I skimmed over the quote you have below the link, but I don't see it there. The link itself never once has "republicans" on record saying this is a racism issue. It is a court that ruled that it was a racist issue. If you can't figure out the difference in that, you're an idiot. It's just another case of the left having and opinion that suddenly becomes "fact" in their minds.

Also, even the quote you have below is a form of gerrymandering. I'm not a fan of that practice, because ultimately a legal vote is a valid one. I do find that to be slightly ethically "wrong". But if they are given the same amount of days as any other voting precinct, then why are these additional "Sundays" an issue? (Again, completely unfamiliar with this situation outside of your quote because I did not see it in your link).

You should try again in regards to the voter ID law though. That's like Hillary saying it's racist, so we can now say that Trump is on the record as it being racist.....since Hillary made it fact and all.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:35 am to
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the lies you were spouting earlier in the thread.


You have an odd definition of lie, since everything I said earlier is identical to what the appeals court judges said.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:38 am to
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In the absence of free IDs, I'm not a fan of using IDs as a substitute poll tax to prevent minority voting.


So you are saying minorities are incapable of getting an ID that cost approximately $15-$20 (depending on which state they are in) that every other American citizen must have? And it's Republicans who are racist?
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26185 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:40 am to
If you make the ID's free of charge, it's fine. I have no issue with it.

When you start charging for them, that makes it unconstitutional.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:43 am to
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So you are saying minorities are incapable of getting an ID that cost approximately $15-$20 (depending on which state they are in) that every other American citizen must have?


That seems to be the case (and not a blanket 'minorities' just 'more minorities than white people by proportion in a population'). And not everyone needs an ID in day to day life.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
86435 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:43 am to
quote:

And not everyone needs an ID in day to day life.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78512 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:44 am to
Reading the abstract tells me it's biased as hell. I'm talking actual election results in LA.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:45 am to
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The link itself never once has "republicans" on record saying this is a racism issue.


The Legislative record was quoted. The State (Republican) Attorney General also said in court limiting early voting was due to African Americans using the practice. If you want to continue to be willfully ignorant, that's on you. The facts are right in front of your eyes, in black and white.

quote:

But if they are given the same amount of days as any other voting precinct, then why are these additional "Sundays" an issue?


Because African Americans were using the Sunday days more than other days, and Republicans specifically eliminated the Sunday days because African Americans were using them more. That's as clear as it gets.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:50 am to
quote:

That seems to be the case (and not a blanket 'minorities' just 'more minorities than white people by proportion in a population')


Then you are a racist for thinking minorities (and I understand it's not a blanket term) are incapable of getting a state issued ID.

quote:

And not everyone needs an ID in day to day life


bullshite. You need an ID to get a job, to drive, to rent an apartment or house, open a bank account, register for food stamps and medicaid, and most importantly... buy alcohol

Does driving a car also suppress minorities?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133828 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:54 am to
quote:

When they're on the record
Link?



North Carolina
So you say Republicans are on record wanting voter ID laws to suppress black voting and when I ask for a link you link to an article about early voting, not voter ID laws and no Republican is quoted in the article you linked saying what you claimed.

You're as dishonest as Hillary. Congratulations.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65466 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:56 am to
quote:

A Louisiana voter must present one of the following forms of identification at the polls: a driver's license, a Louisiana special ID or another generally recognized photo ID that contains the voter's name and signature. If a photo ID is not presented, a utility bill, payroll check or other government document that includes the voter's name and address can be presented. However, such voters also must sign affidavits


find the link yourself.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:56 am to
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Then you are a racist for thinking minorities (and I understand it's not a blanket term) are incapable of getting a state issued ID.


I don't think they "can''t", I think Republicans specifically targeted them to suppress their vote by whatever means necessary. Yesterday it was literacy tests, today it's ID laws, tomorrow it'll be something else.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
86435 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Yesterday it was literacy tests, today it's ID laws, tomorrow it'll be something else.
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