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re: SpaceX wins Moon Human Landing System contract

Posted on 4/16/21 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 9:06 pm to
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How any 2 stage ship has enough Delta V to reach the moon and bring two cyber trucks. Unless this proposal changes, I just don’t see it being practical for a ship of that size without any SRB or booster other than the first stage. To have all the life support systems, fuel, and vehicles fit in that first stage is ludicrous. Its one thing to make it to LEO. It’s a whole different thing for a lunar rendezvous. I’m not holding my breath until I see the specs.


shite man. Keep us posted.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 9:45 pm to
ARS Technica

Eric Berger’s writeup on the story ^
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 10:12 pm to
Any of you read Eric's book? I heard him interviewed on Coast to Coast one night and it sounded pretty well researched and interesting.
Posted by trilltiger
LA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:58 am to
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Why is that animation so shitty?


Because it’s BS
We didn’t go to the moon on a rocket. The head of the moon mission was a plasma physicist
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 2:21 am to

God damn, this thread has brought about a weird element of very specific trolling and odd, unexpected posts

Posted by GeneralLee
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:30 am to
Yes I’ve read his book and it’s a must read. Crazy how determined and desperate they were on the last chance to reach orbit before funding was all dried up (first few launch attempts failed and they only had one more shot). If that rocket didn’t reach orbit, it would have set back space exploration by decades as it would only be blue origin and Boeing type companies taking forever to get anything done.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:34 am to
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Bezos is such a loser...

The guy pretty much single-handedly started the greatest company on earth, and he’s a “loser”.
Posted by Chero987
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:43 am to
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I know a guy who knows how to read 10-Ks you can find on Google and he said the same thing.


Pretty impressive considering SpaceX is a private company and doesn’t file 10-k’s.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:49 am to
I have his book and have read a few chapters. Life seems to get in the way
Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:00 am to
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The guy pretty much single-handedly started the greatest company on earth, and he’s a “loser”.



makes you wonder why he doesn't have more sense politically or maybe the cabal is all powerful so he doesn't have to have any sense politically because he is on the side that controls all anyway
Posted by just1dawg
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:27 pm to
A few thoughts:

1. Congress didn't give NASA enough budget this year to select two competitors as they wanted to. SpaceX was only selected because they were able to push out part of their funding to later periods. Blue Origin wanted early payments that are not allowed in the RFP and Dynetics, amazingly, is now the highest cost proposal.

2. I hate to see the hometown choice Dynetics (Huntsville) lose out, but NASA had serious concerns about the mass of their lander already being too heavy in its early design stages. Cost wasn't the reason for not selecting their proposal.

3. SpaceX's program management rating was rated the highest of the three. NASA clearly has a lot of confidence in SpaceX's ability to execute, as well as faith in its leader, Gwynne Shotwell. Musk is the visionary while Shotwell is the brilliant business leader keeping it all together. They are an incredible team.

4. This is the official beginning of the end of SLS. The way NASA worded the announcement gives them a political out.

5. NASA didn't want to be left behind. How embarrassing it would be if SpaceX went to the moon first without NASA.
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