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Death toll rises re: russian radiation explosion

Posted on 8/10/19 at 3:59 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69258 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 3:59 pm
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Russian officials admit radioactive materials were involved in a mystery explosion two days ago at a military base in northern Russia, say five additional people died in addition to the two announced Thursday. No official information yet on what blew up.


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Posted by SD Tider
San Diego
Member since May 2019
2500 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:00 pm to
The Russians really suck at nuclear safety.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:00 pm to
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No official information yet on what blew up.
not surprising.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22157 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:00 pm to
Muh Russians, but for realz this time
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:02 pm to
Probably not great but not terrible
Posted by Booyow
Member since Mar 2010
3991 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:04 pm to
Surveillance video has surfaced







Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38666 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5645 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:09 pm to
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five additional people


So 3,000, got it, thanks.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2739 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:35 pm to
3.6 roentgen?
Posted by lsuwins3
Member since Nov 2008
1618 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 5:25 pm to
I guess it was the CIA again. The Russian’s claim CIA caused Chernobyl disaster.
Posted by ElectricWizard0
Member since Jul 2017
2702 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 5:47 pm to
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3.6 roentgen?


Not great, not terrible.
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6268 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 6:31 pm to
Zappas, what's that gif from?
Posted by TheOfficial
Member since Feb 2005
1376 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 6:35 pm to
Chernobyl. It’s on HBO. Great show. Also had a podcast the creator is in that accompanies it. Very good also. Watch an episode then listen to the podcast that goes with it. Great stuff.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:25 pm to
.....you know eventually all these nuclear accidents are going to catch up with us. I remember reading an article that stated pacific whales were acting odd following the Fukushima Nuclear Plant explosion. Last time I checked on that recovery TEPCO was having a real problem storing all that radioactive waste water. Plus the steel waste water tanks were starting to leak, and they've accumulated a lot of tanks. So as far as the Ruskies are concerned I count two nuclear submarine accidents, the Chernobyl disaster, and now this. Maybe some more I didn't count.

So how long you figure before this radioactive water shite starts making my kids eyes glow in the dark? We're pretty safe here on the Gulf Coast.......right?

This post was edited on 8/10/19 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98144 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:57 pm to
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One of the shortcomings of the 3M22 is that it is fairly short range. According to most estimates, while the 3M22 hypersonic cruise missile can reach Mach 8 or Mach 9 (at least for part of its flight), its outer range is around 540 nautical miles (1,000 km), putting it well within reach of US stealth bombers and carrier-based F-35s. All of this means that under combat conditions, the Kirov-class battlecruisers would be sitting ducks. It therefore makes sense that the Russians would want to extend the range of the 3M22, by doubling or tripling it. Assuming the Kirov class has good enough radar, or can coordinate with overhead assets (aircraft, satellites), an extended range 3M22 would make sense.

The question then arises how could that be achieved? There are essentially two ways: either a much bigger liquid fuel rocket (which might be too large even for a battlecruiser, and would take some time into the future to be available), or a nuclear-thermal engine, either a booster or as a second stage before the scramjet is activated. In turn, this would dramatically change the flight profile, perhaps near the exoatmosphere and reserve the scramjet for the last attack stages.

Work has been done on nuclear rocket engines, mostly for use in space mission applications. The US tested them many years ago; Britain has been known to work on them, and so too have the Russians.


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The Russian program – RD-0410 – ran between 1965 and 1980 and testing took place at Semipalatinsk, then the Soviet Union’s nuclear test site. Exactly what the Russians have been doing since 1980 is impossible to say. But this is exactly the sort of project that could appeal to Russia’s scientists and engineers, and to Russia’s Defense Ministry that is always looking to gain an advantage over their main rival, the United States. With the US now gathering steam in with its own hypersonic cruise missiles, the Russians could well have been looking to get another jump on the Pentagon.

This appears to be the most likely explanation and makes sense in connection with Rosatom’s statement.

In any case, it is utterly irresponsible to test a nuclear-powered rocket engine in a sensitive location near the Arctic circle and close to heavily populated areas, particularly Finland and Sweden. Had the rocket flown an errant course the consequences could have been disastrous.


TL;DR, the Russians are working on some kind of nuclear powered rocket.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 9:33 pm to
An accident from a nuke rocket test likely would have resulted in a dirty bomb like scenario, not what we saw in the videos, that looked like a small tactical nuclear weapon explosion.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5602 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 10:38 pm to
One of the explosions defanantly look like it may have been a nuke ( not that I've ever seen one explode ), but what I'm wondering about is how spread out all the explosions are. That's a pretty large area, and distance between them.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98144 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 10:41 pm to
The videos were from another explosion in Siberia. It was a bad week for the Russian Military Industrial Complex
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