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re: 14 year old weight training advice?

Posted on 6/8/19 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 10:22 am to
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maybe try to find Jess Kellum’s contact


That is who we went with. So far so good. The kid hasn’t complained about going yet, which is an entirely foreign idea coming from a teenager.

Any recommendations for supplements? If anything, I think I’m only comfortable starting him on protein powder. If this is a good idea, any recommendation for brand and type? Thanks again for all the help.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31034 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 3:00 pm to
No need for anything right now, except beef, lots and lots of beef. And I am being serious. For diet long term look into vertical diet concepts but essentially he needs to be eating whole foods, in a surplus, 1g+ of protein per lbs of bodyweight and plenty of carbs.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13532 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 7:31 am to
Never sacrifice stability for mobility. If he can not control his own body through a range of movement patterns, it wouldn't be wise to throw an external load on him. You have the right idea with starting him off with body weight exercises first. See how he responds to those. Of his mechanics are all over the place, than he needs to stick with body weight until he can control his own body in space. From there, I would probably look around using bands to provide an external load before throwing weights on him. Progressive isn't linear, so it may take some time for him to adapt. He may adapt quicker on certain exercises than others. I would also challenge him with a lot of core and balance and stability exercises. Teach him how to do a proper plank and have him do a crap ton of them. Also, see if he can do simple task such as just standing on one leg without any compensations.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:35 am to
No need for supplements.

Invest the money into diet and training. It will go further.

If the kid is begging for it, explain to him how at his age his ability to grow and recover is far greater than what any supplement can do.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:30 pm to
Diet will do 50x for him what supplements will do. Keep protein high, plenty of non-sugar carbs and try to focus on healthy fats.

If he is very motivated, there are great mass gain programs like the vertical diet mentioned. He is at an age where there's a little dietary flexibility as long as he is getting adequate protein, calories and carbs.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13952 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 6:46 pm to
I agree with D1. They’ll concentrate on form, and sport specific training. Safety first, then once form is down weight will come.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48305 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:30 am to
Weight training.

Just make sure he learns proper technique first.
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
685 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:21 am to
Y’all have al been so great easing the mind of a well meaning father. Hopefully last question for a while. I’ve told him no to protein powder, that he needs to eat more meat, beans, vegetables and simple carbs. With that being said, is chocolate milk a good recovery/protein drink that would be beneficial after workouts. By they way, I had to drag him kicking and screaming to his first session. Now, a week plus in and he’s made when he’s a couple minutes late. Thanks again for all of the advice.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:53 am to
Chocolate milk is fine for recovery. Right after working our, high carbs and protein is ideal. If he's cool with it, skim is the best bc fat really isn't productive bc it slows absorbtion of carbs and protein.

Glad he's enjoying it. I wish I got better training advice at 14. That is prime time for laying a foundation. If he plays sports, when he sees the difference in performance...that should be a huge motivator too.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31034 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:57 am to
Yes chocolate milk is a fine post workout recovery drink.

And I don't want to give off the wrong impression. Protein powder especially a high quality powder like that from true nutrition is just food. But like so many things it lacks many micronutrients and the calories that comes from whole foods sources. For a 14 year old it can become a crutch. Learning to eat for your goals with whole foods should be the goal.

If he stalls weight gain wise and just can not force himself to eat anymore, then fine get him a protein powder, but he would be better off adding a tablespoon of olive oil to a salad if you get what I am saying.

Another thing is after he gets used to lifting, 6-8 months, have him start adding in daily bodyweight work, especially chins and pushups. See my greyskull thread for more information and links.
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