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PSA: Home Depot has Trufuel 50:1 on sale today only
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:51 pm
Trufuel 50:1 quarts $3.88 in-store
Limit 8 per customer, may go get my next three years worth after work.
Limit 8 per customer, may go get my next three years worth after work.
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 1:25 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Never used premix stuff like this. Good for all standard push mowers and weed eaters?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 1:35 pm to TigerTatorTots
As long as you use the proper mix for the piece of equipment it's the same as gas. The benefit is it will store for up to three years on the shelf and doesn't require draining of the fuel system if the engine is going to sit up. Perfect for those of us who only have one or two pieces of yard equipment that take fuel-oil mix and don't burn much.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 1:43 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Avgas 100ll stores the same but is low lead and will clog up catalytic converters on some models.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:07 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Damnit. Went run there for lunch to get something else and saw all the boxes of it by the registers. Was in such a rush I never noticed the sale.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 10:56 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Good looking out baw. Thanks!
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:53 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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As long as you use the proper mix for the piece of equipment it's the same as gas.
Not quite, it's mostly naphtha with a few additives. You'll get slightly less power running the stuff vs gasoline.
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The benefit is it will store for up to three years on the shelf and doesn't require draining of the fuel system if the engine is going to sit up.
In a sealed container it has a long storage life, in the fuel tank of a piece of equipment not so much. You should always drain the fuel out of anything being put away for the season, pre-mix fuels will still cause varnish deposits. It's good stuff to use as a flush prior to seasonal storage or low/occasional use eqipment but you do not want to leave it sitting in a carburetor. Part of the advantage is the packaging, those steel containers are airtight, I reuse one to store the 25:1 mix my auger uses. Even regular self-mixed fuel will last much longer in one of those cans compared to the junk plastic fuel cans most box stores sell.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:10 pm to Clames
Naphtha is a very broad term. Alkylated naphtha, which is up to 70% of the product per the SDS, is not a run of the mill cut. Its the product of light ends reforming and is usually blended into gasoline to boost octane without adding volatiles. That’s what makes this stuff what it is, a stable fuel that just happens to be more expensive to produce. If you say the final mixture has a heat value lower than average gas then I’ll take your word for it, but that would be surprising as the entire reason refineries go to the trouble of making it is to boost octane. In fact I would suspect the balance solvents are there just to dilute the octane number.
Regardless, the target user of this stuff is never going to know the difference, someone squeezing an extra 10% of power out of their small engine is mixing their own because they’re burning a lot. Of course it’s never a bad idea to drain the fuel system but again the target user of this stuff forgets, and in my personal experience with a simple top off it runs as well as new and has never gummed up a carb. If you had to pick one to leave sitting in the tank for three months in the winter trufuel is definitely going to cause fewer issues over regular mixed gas.
Regardless, the target user of this stuff is never going to know the difference, someone squeezing an extra 10% of power out of their small engine is mixing their own because they’re burning a lot. Of course it’s never a bad idea to drain the fuel system but again the target user of this stuff forgets, and in my personal experience with a simple top off it runs as well as new and has never gummed up a carb. If you had to pick one to leave sitting in the tank for three months in the winter trufuel is definitely going to cause fewer issues over regular mixed gas.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:02 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
I know you said one day only but did anyone by chance stop in and see if they were still on sale?
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:08 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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As long as you use the proper mix for the piece of equipment it's the same as gas.
Not really. The 50 fuel has a higher percent alkylate than most regular gasolines. Most gasoline mixes you get will be mostly naphtha with minimum alkylate used to hit vapor pressure targets etc.
Also, a lot of gasoline will have some low quality blend components such as natural gasoline liquids (a ~c6 to c8 blend), butanes etc. 50 fuel doesn't have those kind of low quality blend stocks. The low quality blend stuff really hurts stability.
But, the most important thing with 50 fuel is that it is never mixed with ethanol nor has it been stored in tanks that have had an ethanol blend in them. Ethanol is a one way trip to ruin for small engines.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:23 pm to LSU0358
My only intent with the "it's the same as gas" was to explain to the guy who asked that it's compatible with gas equipment as long as you use the correct oil mix version. I assume because all the OEMs are now coming out with their own special brand of it cause they realize it's selling, people may be confused. I'm a big fan of the actual differences between it and gas, as you can see.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:36 pm to LSU0358
quote:by 50 fuel, are you talking about trufuel 50:1? Because al lof the boutique fuels offered are straight Alkylate petrol. Not just a hight percent. Straight, 100 percent Alkylate with synthetic oil blended for 2 strokes.
Not really. The 50 fuel has a higher percent alkylate than most regular gasolines
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:48 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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was to explain to the guy who asked that it's compatible with gas equipment as long as you use the correct oil mix version.
agreed.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:52 pm to Bedhog
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by 50 fuel, are you talking about trufuel 50:1? Because al lof the boutique fuels offered are straight Alkylate petrol. Not just a hight percent. Straight, 100 percent Alkylate with synthetic oil blended for 2 strokes.
I'm not positive on the exact blend on 50 fuel any more. I've worked with their blend in the past, but not in over 7 years. It was mostly a reformate/alkylate blend along with the lube oil, but I don't recall the exact %'s (and couldn't give it out if I did).
It's good stuff, I use it on all of my 2 stroke lawn equipment.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:05 pm to LSU0358
I'm wondering what your wording means by "50 fuel".
Are you talking about the fuel used in boutique fuels or the 50:1 2 stroke blended fuel?
Alkylate fuel is what is used in Avgas100ll. It has no gasoline in it at all. It's made to sit up in fuel tanks in airplanes that often sit in hangars for months before use.
Aspen has been using straight Alkylate fuel for decades and arborists have been using Alkylate fuel in their saws in cold, high altitude conditions for this entire time.
Are you talking about the fuel used in boutique fuels or the 50:1 2 stroke blended fuel?
Alkylate fuel is what is used in Avgas100ll. It has no gasoline in it at all. It's made to sit up in fuel tanks in airplanes that often sit in hangars for months before use.
Aspen has been using straight Alkylate fuel for decades and arborists have been using Alkylate fuel in their saws in cold, high altitude conditions for this entire time.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:08 pm to Bedhog
You can buy Avgas100ll for under $5 a gallon and keep it in a metal sealed can, mix your own synthetic 2 stroke oil and have the same thing as trufuel.
I have trufuel, have been an advocate for it for a long time but I do have access to Avgas and have been using it for a few years and have the same results as using Trufuel for a fraction of the cost.
I have trufuel, have been an advocate for it for a long time but I do have access to Avgas and have been using it for a few years and have the same results as using Trufuel for a fraction of the cost.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:38 pm to Bedhog
Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:46 pm to LSU0358
Ok. Thanks for the clarification. Thought you were talking about the base fuel used to make trufuel. True Alkylate is the base for Avgas100ll and all boutique fuels that we are discussing.
Shelf life is off the charts food and Alkylate is nothing at all like gasoline
Shelf life is off the charts food and Alkylate is nothing at all like gasoline
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 5:47 pm
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