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re: Is TPC Louisiana still closing for months after Zurich?

Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:38 pm to
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That's Dye's MO
And one of his biggest disciples: Tom Doak

This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:58 pm to
Doak worked under Dye in grad school, IIRC. But he credits McKenzie for his inspiration.

Doak's book is often quite critical of Dye designs.
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Doak worked under Dye in grad school, IIRC


Pretty sure he worked under Doak for 4 or so years, I could be off though.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Doak is a "minimalist" designer. Minimalism is a school of golf design that focuses on concentrating design of a golf hole (or routing) around the natural features of the land. His most successful courses have been built on sand dunes, taking advantage of the sandy soil for drainage also allowing for the reuse of native elements.

Doak credits most of his accomplishments and success to golf course designer Pete Dye. Doak worked with Dye to learn how to construct golf courses during graduate school.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 2:00 pm to
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Doak's book is often quite critical of Dye designs.
I need to read it, but from reviews, it sounds like he's mostly critical of guys like Rees Jones and Jack.
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 2:03 pm to
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ell_13


You use Wikipedia, I use the man himself

I spent three years working on construction projects for Pete Dye and his sons
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 2:06 pm to
If you read anything on Doak he often stops short of praising Dye as a good designer. But will credit him as an impeccable planner & architect.

There's a distinct difference when he talks about McKenzie. Raves over his designs.

From my perspective, he credits Pete for showing him the "ropes" and McKenzie for actual design inspiration.

There have been great course designers that couldn't effectively manage a firm. And there have been amazing firms with terrible designers.
Posted by Rusty Scroggins
Member since Feb 2019
197 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 2:06 pm to
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From my perspective, he credits Pete for showing him the "ropes" and McKenzie for actual design inspiration.



This is accurate
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:04 pm to
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and sprig the fairways with Celebration Grass.



Gotta bring my own rolling papers?
Posted by lilsnappa
Red Stick
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:18 pm to
Months? Probably more like a year...
Posted by Front9Bandit
Member since Dec 2013
15432 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:43 pm to
Doak is the grand daddy, everyone else should just shut up and rent some dozers to come close to his works of art, he doesn’t move land and doesn’t man make bullshite and fake views ie: the rest of the nerds. I’ll report back from Crystal Downs before it snows in late 2019.


Ballyneal
Lost Dunes
3rd course at Sand Valley incoming
Streamsong
Etc etc etc
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35402 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:53 pm to
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I’ll report back from Crystal Downs before it snows in late 2019.



Make sure you wax them golf carts good, boy
Posted by CockyTime
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3150 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:29 pm to
Does anyone know how much longer you can play there before they stop taking tee times in prep for Zurich?
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