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re: Somebody explain the fascination the NFL has with mediocre college HCs
Posted on 1/7/19 at 5:49 pm to jgoodw318
Posted on 1/7/19 at 5:49 pm to jgoodw318
have to agree, college vs pros is apples and oranges between coaching hungry college kids who listen to you vs spoiled millionaire premadonnas who DGAF about any of that rah rah for the team and your team mates shite
saban figured that shite out fast and went back to college with his tail between his legs.
saban figured that shite out fast and went back to college with his tail between his legs.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 6:37 pm to jgoodw318
No one proven in college wants those NFL jobs, so NFL is stuck looking for second tier college coaches, NFL assistants and NFL retreads.
What's the upside unless you really hate recruiting? Leash is ultra-short.
What's the upside unless you really hate recruiting? Leash is ultra-short.
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:29 pm to jgoodw318
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There has not been one coach who was a career mediocre coach in college that turned out to be a success in the NFL.
Bill Walsh
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:54 pm to jgoodw318
NFL teams have adopted the College offenses more than ever.
College offenses also have figured some things out.
Passing games based on isolating athletes in space work in the NFL.
Plus non of the young QBs can run conplicated offenses
College offenses also have figured some things out.
Passing games based on isolating athletes in space work in the NFL.
Plus non of the young QBs can run conplicated offenses
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:12 pm to jgoodw318
It's all about the QB to most of them now. If they think you can coach up a QB, then you have a chance to get hired.
It's not a terrible way to go about it. If you can coach up a young QB on a rookie contract, then you're poised to have a good team if the rest of the organization can do their job and get the right players around the QB. With the money a good QB on a rookie contract frees up, it's very beneficial.
Then, if that's successful, you continue to develop that QB until he can become more of a force on his own. When that 2nd contract comes up, you feel better paying him more knowing he can take over games if needed, if that's how the development goes.
There's no fool proof way to hire a head coach, but being able to coach up a QB is a good place to start. Let all the other guys in the organization handle the rest of the stuff.
It's not a terrible way to go about it. If you can coach up a young QB on a rookie contract, then you're poised to have a good team if the rest of the organization can do their job and get the right players around the QB. With the money a good QB on a rookie contract frees up, it's very beneficial.
Then, if that's successful, you continue to develop that QB until he can become more of a force on his own. When that 2nd contract comes up, you feel better paying him more knowing he can take over games if needed, if that's how the development goes.
There's no fool proof way to hire a head coach, but being able to coach up a QB is a good place to start. Let all the other guys in the organization handle the rest of the stuff.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:49 pm to jgoodw318
Kingsbury coached Mahommes, Case Keenum, Baker Mayfield, and even made Johnny frick up look good. Owner is swinging for the fence. Hit playoffs, or suck for 2 years, then cut ties with KK. 3 starting NFL QBs coached by the same guy in college. In what? 4 years, 5 years?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:03 pm to jgoodw318
The good college coaches don't want the jobs. The NFL is no longer the destination for most of them.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 7:53 pm to LSU2a
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The biggest difference between CFB and the NFL is the method of acquiring players. Success in CFB requires the ability to successfully recruit high schoolers. Remove that aspect from the equation and you can be left with a CFB coach that is great at game planning and the management aspects of coaching but is bad at recruiting. This is why you could theortically have someone that is a mediocre CFB coach have success in the NFL.
Why Saban wasn’t a good NFL head coach.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 12:08 am to waiting4saturday
He was only there for two years which really isn't enough to say if he could have turned around Miami or not.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 6:17 am to jgoodw318
They believe that people learn from their mistakes
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