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re: Did the LSU-Alabama Rematch Really Kill the BCS?

Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15877 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:43 pm to
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Had LSU played a 4-7 alabama team and won 9-6 it would have been "escaping" with a victory. But this was the "game of the century". 1 vs 2. Alabama had the home field advantage and the f-in lost.

I totally agree. The media got caught up in the narrative that Bama lost it with missed FGs and the jump ball awarded (correctly) to Reid at the goal line. Rather than we won it.

They forgot that if JJ doesn't throw slightly behind Shepard on a completion in the redzone, he likely walks in for a TD before halftime. Also, Ford barely stepping out of bounds on the TD run in OT.

I remember Kornheiser saying on PTI that if Ford scores, the perception of a great defensive game is completely different because LSU proved they could reach the endzone and Bama couldn't.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33161 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:40 pm to
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His biggest regret in a coaching career that spans nearly four decades remains his team’s preparation leading up to the rematch. He wishes he had better motivated his players to play a team that they’d already beat. “The head coach, me, did a poor job,” he says.


Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26614 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:43 am to
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I don't really see it ever being as exciting for me again, as the regular season does not mean much any longer since a committee can just vote you in if you have injuries or just pass the "eye test:".


I still don't understand how Ohio St got in over Penn St.

Penn St and USC were playing some of the best football in the country after their early season losses (both coming on 9 and 8 game streaks, respectively) . I still think the two best teams played for it all, but Penn St and USC would have given Clemson and Bama better games than Washington and tOSU did.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:27 am to
I think the fact that Bama lost AT HOME and was granted another shot then ended up winning is what killed it. I don't think the game happening itself killed it.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1907 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:58 am to
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So you are saying that Okie State was a better team than Bama that year??????

Because IF you are... YOU are A dummy.............


Perhaps. Perhaps not. We will never really know, will we?

I maintain that if it had been Oklahoma instead of Oklahoma State with the exact same resume that year, we would have played the Sooners in the BCSCG.

And, that is the problem.

GEAUX TIGERS
Posted by Old
Metairie
Member since Dec 2016
2843 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Did the LSU-Alabama Rematch Really Kill the BCS?Sports Illustrated article from yesterday - LINK TLDR: College football is still using the BCS if LSU plays Oklahoma State instead of the rematch with Alabama. I hate the BCS, but would prefer it to have won that national championship (or at least had the chance against OKST)
Alabama is corrupt.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:44 am to
No, it was the bitching from Presidents and non SEC news media that could handle the possibility of having two SEC teams again in the final.

Had to disguise such in some way.
That's why the input was passed on to a "committee" ...
just in case the computer formula would do it again.

And with 4 teams, it almost happened again, now, they will push for 6 or 8 to try to lengthen the odds.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:48 am to
Still wish they would have kept the BCS formula and then just made it a 4 team playoff. I hate the selection process - maybe use 1/2 computer algorithms and the other half of the points weighted to the selection committee.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 9:51 am
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:25 am to
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Still wish they would have kept the BCS formula and then just made it a 4 team playoff. I hate the selection process - maybe use 1/2 computer algorithms and the other half of the points weighted to the selection committee.


Absolutely, but the formula could not be influenced.
Only other thing, I would strive to add meaning to be #1 and # 2 and based ON THE BCS formula and have a 6 team playoff with #1 and # 2 having a bye.

Right now #1 and # 2 do not enjoy any rewards.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 11:09 am to
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if the selection committee existed back in 2011, Bama is still getting the nod. because


they were undoubtedly one of the best 4 teams in the country.

thats what I think you meant to say.
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 1:26 pm to
Personally I like the days of UPI and AP polls choosing the NC and there being so many bowls, particularly the shite bowls with the shut teams. Looks like that everybody getting a trophy mentality.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 1:38 pm to
It’s always about $$$$ and brand name. A natty with Oklahoma State Vs LSU isn’t as flashy as The University of Alabama Vs Louisiana State University. Same as 2015 with The Ohio State University Vs The University of Alabama. DOLLA DOLLA BILL YALL
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 1:40 pm to
We as LSU fans should be grateful we are one of those 15 programs that can get by on name alone and squeak into a game we don’t necessarily deserve to be in..
LSU
Bama
Ohio State
USC
UGA
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
Michigan
...
List goes on
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3796 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 1:50 pm to
People wanted a playoff for years, it was going to happen within the next few years. The ncaa ofcourse fricked up the playoff process.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22712 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:07 pm to
It may have been the death knell of the BCS, but it had been dying for quite some time. LSU 03 winning while USC gets the Assoc. Press title. LSU backing into the Natty with 2 losses because of some quirky conference championship games. LSU v. Gumps rematch. Odd how all of these strange BCS controversies involve LSU. Oh, and undefeated Auburn being left out in the cold in 04.

quote:

People are fricking dumb, biased, and have agendas. They shouldn’t be allowed to determine who gets into such a lucrative four team tournament.


Only a true playoff system would change this.
Posted by WackyChris
Da Parish, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
2767 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:17 pm to
Game of the Century Part II definitely didn't kill the BCS but it was the final nail in the coffin. The controversy and groaning about the BCS started around 2003 when LSU won the crystal football and USC claimed a share of the national championship from the AP.

I think (from what I remember) that was the start of the BCS groaning. Then an undefeated Auburn got left out, I believe it was the very next year. That started a conversation for a playoff and then it took off more heavily later.
Posted by karmew32
Ponchatoula, LA
Member since Jan 2017
1506 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:32 pm to
It’s 16 programs, actually.
Alabama
Texas
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Michigan
Nebraska
USC
Penn State
LSU
Auburn
Tennessee
Georgia
Florida
Miami
Florida State
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27721 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:19 pm to
I truly believe if Okie State would have been in there instead of Bama, LSU would have gone down as one of the best teams ever. They beat 8 ranked teams during that season, so when they played the team, they were ranked. If they would have beat Okie State, that would have been 9. (Oregon was 3, Miss St was 25, West Virginia was 16, Florida was 17, Auburn was 19, Alabama was 2, Arkansas was 3 and Georgia number 12.) I am in my mid 40's, so I always considered the mid 90's Nebraska teams as the most dominant, but I think LSU would be up there with them. After that game, I just lost interest in LSU football. That game just changed me. I took football way too seriously. Now it is just another thing to watch on tv. I just can't get worked up about it. Too many more important things in life.
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