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Watching the playoffs today,
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:03 pm
it’s amazing to me how many top level players come from the former Yugoslavia.
It seems like there were at least ten guys who were significant contributors in the four games today from those six countries. That’s not even mentioning the young studs like Doncic coming up the ranks.
A few questions:
How did this come to be? Is this the Vlade/Drazen effect a generation later? Why is basketball such a big deal there?
Could a unified Former Yugoslavia team give an American team a real run for its money on the world stage? If not, what about a unified European team?
It seems like there were at least ten guys who were significant contributors in the four games today from those six countries. That’s not even mentioning the young studs like Doncic coming up the ranks.
A few questions:
How did this come to be? Is this the Vlade/Drazen effect a generation later? Why is basketball such a big deal there?
Could a unified Former Yugoslavia team give an American team a real run for its money on the world stage? If not, what about a unified European team?
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 11:05 pm
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:10 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Lots of tall guys in their population
Great development programs starting very young
Highly value shooting skills
Tons of western influences in their coaching
Great development programs starting very young
Highly value shooting skills
Tons of western influences in their coaching
Posted on 4/15/18 at 8:55 am to AbuTheMonkey
They have incredible player development + the influences you mentioned
If the top American talent is playing no
Maybe. If you did “World” where guys like Simmons and Embiid are included it’s definitely possible but I’m not sure the perimeter talent is all there
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Could a unified Former Yugoslavia team give an American team a real run for its money on the world stage?
If the top American talent is playing no
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If not, what about a unified European team?
Maybe. If you did “World” where guys like Simmons and Embiid are included it’s definitely possible but I’m not sure the perimeter talent is all there
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:22 am to AbuTheMonkey
unified Yugo won a gold at Olympics when Carter played politics with our Olympics.
they might. they would have a decent front line but not enough speed in backcourt.
If they hit their 3's they could upset LeBron, D Green, Klay, KD and Curry. You think?
they might. they would have a decent front line but not enough speed in backcourt.
If they hit their 3's they could upset LeBron, D Green, Klay, KD and Curry. You think?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:33 am to AbuTheMonkey
It's a sports crazy region from what I hear. I'm sure that Vlade/Drazen generation did have a big influence. I don't know if they'd be better than Spain was a few years ago but they'd have the deepest roster of NBA talent a foreign team has ever had
Dragic, Doncic, Bogdan, Saric, Jokic. Milos, Bojan, Mirotic, Nurkic, I'm sure I'm forgetting a few as well.
Dragic, Doncic, Bogdan, Saric, Jokic. Milos, Bojan, Mirotic, Nurkic, I'm sure I'm forgetting a few as well.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:03 pm to floridatigah
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Allen Iverson
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Tim Duncan
Carlos Boozer
Carmelo Anthony
Emeka Okafor
Stephon Marbury
Shawn Marion
Amar'e Stoudemire
Lamar Odom
Richard Jefferson
came in 3rd in Athens
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:22 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Watching the playoffs today,
Get ready for some LeGOAT domination, will be one of the most fulfilling pro basketball consuming experiences of your entire life
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:25 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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will be one of the most fulfilling pro basketball consuming experiences of your entire life
Posted on 4/15/18 at 9:16 pm to floridatigah
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It's a sports crazy region from what I hear. I'm sure that Vlade/Drazen generation did have a big influence. I don't know if they'd be better than Spain was a few years ago but they'd have the deepest roster of NBA talent a foreign team has ever had
Dragic, Doncic, Bogdan, Saric, Jokic. Milos, Bojan, Mirotic, Nurkic, I'm sure I'm forgetting a few as well.
I guess my question is more historical. Why was this region even able to produce such a good crop in the first place after the Wall fell and why, now even twenty-plus years later, a region that has a combined population less than the state of New York would be able to field an international team that is easily the second-best in the world and that could perhaps even challenge us?
Think about that: the former Yugoslavia combined has a population about a third of what modern Spain is.
The "sports crazy" thing I am sure applies to an extent, but why wouldn't that apply to Germany, France, Britain, Russia, etc., all of which have populations multiples larger than this region?
It's such a statistical anomaly and stands out so much to me that I have to think there is something that data or training or genetics or whatever can't catch going on there. For that matter, it's a bit of a mystery to me why basketball in the Mediterranean in general (Spain, Italy, Greece, the Balkans, Turkey) is so, so, so much better in general than the rest of Europe. It's not like American cultural influence there was any stronger than the rest of Europe.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 9:40 pm to AbuTheMonkey
The Mediterranean countries fricking love basketball
And since most the soccer clubs have basketball teams the fans support it like soccer
Serbians and Croats are nuts for it
Then off course you got the Greeks and Turks as well
And since most the soccer clubs have basketball teams the fans support it like soccer
Serbians and Croats are nuts for it
Then off course you got the Greeks and Turks as well
Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:42 pm to AbuTheMonkey
They are fundamentally sound so they make great additional players
Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:48 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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The Mediterranean countries fricking love basketball
I guess that's kind of at the core of my question: why is that so? What makes these places so much better at producing basketball players than, say, Germany, France, Holland, Scandinavia, and so forth? The genetics aren't any different at all (as far as producing tall dudes), the populations are much larger, they're much more economically developed, they all are great sporting countries, etc., etc.
So what gives? Why is that little slice of the world so great at producing elite hoopers?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:00 pm to AbuTheMonkey
i think it comes down to the fact that they're tall and athletic. most other regions only have one of the two going for them.
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