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SpaceX proceeding with Starship orbital launch attempt after static fire

Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:14 am
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:14 am
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ORLANDO — SpaceX’s static-fire test of nearly all the engines in its Starship booster earlier this month was “the last box to check” before the vehicle’s first orbital launch attempt, likely some time in March, a company official said Feb. 21.

Speaking on a panel at the Space Mobility conference here about “rocket cargo” delivery, Gary Henry, senior advisor for national security space solutions at SpaceX, said both the Super Heavy booster and its launch pad were in good shape after the Feb. 9 test, clearing the way for an orbital launch that is still pending a Federal Aviation Administration launch license.

“We had a successful hot fire, and that was really the last box to check,” he said. “The vehicle is in good shape. The pad is in good shape.”

Only 31 of the 33 Raptor engines in the Super Heavy booster fired. SpaceX Chief Executive Elon Musk tweeted just after the test that one engine was commanded off just before ignition and a second shut down early. He later said that the engines ran at 50% of their rated thrust.

That led to speculation that SpaceX would need to perform a second static-fire test to get all 33 engines, or to run them at higher thrust levels. Henry, though, suggested that SpaceX was not planning another such test before an orbital launch attempt.

“Pretty much all of the prerequisites to supporting an orbital demonstration attempt here in the next month or so look good,” he said.

The company still needs to obtain an FAA launch license before attempting the launch. “We hope to secure that license in the very near future,” he said, setting up a launch attempt “probably in the month of March.”

Once SpaceX performs that orbital launch demonstration, Henry said the company is ready to move ahead rapidly with operational Starship launches. “We very, very quickly converge on a system that we can operationalize,” he said, starting with launches of second-generation Starlink satellites. “We have a few that are waiting very patiently to be launched on Starship.”

Those initial Starlink launches will serve as a test program, he explained, refining the launch and recovery of the two stages of Starship. “Somewhere in that journey that will be happening this year, we’re going to make a major pivot to the next piece of the Human Landing System architecture,” he said, by demonstrating the orbital depot needed for on-orbit refueling of the lunar lander version of Starship.

That will provide additional experience testing Starship through the tankers that will fly to deliver propellant to the depot. “The nice thing about tankers is that they’ve got to reenter as well,” he said. “We’ve created this rubric, in the next year or two, where we will be able to do a lot of experimentation on that thermal protection system that will allow successful reentry of Starship.”

Starship, Henry argued later in the panel, will sharply drive down launch costs. “We are on the cusp of seeing an opportunity of mass to orbit go from $2,000 a kilogram to $200 a kilogram,” he said. In the long term, costs could further decline to the point where the propellant is the largest factor in the per-launch marginal cost.

“If Elon gets his way,” he said, “you’re at $20 per kilogram.”




Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:21 am to
At $20 a 200 lb person is ~$2,000 ticket.

At $200 it’s $20,000
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
1585 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:26 am to
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At $20 a 200 lb person is ~$2,000 ticket.

At $200 it’s $20,000


someone got the 5th grade word problem right this morning
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65535 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:28 am to
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At $20 a 200 lb person is ~$2,000 ticket.

At $200 it’s $20,000
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eng08
Checks out
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35976 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:36 am to
So about $2400 for an OT Baw.
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
3193 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:37 am to
Hell yeah. They're the only people trying to pioneer something great for humanity in these dark times. Great news.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12963 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:50 am to
$350 actually
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15549 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:52 am to
If you can make orbit with 28 of the 33 motors then no need to test again. Especially if this is a test flight. The whole logic for 33 motors was redundancy so a failure or two will actually test the function even better so.

Come on FAA. Don’t drag this out
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21233 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:09 am to
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At $20 a 200 lb person is ~$2,000 ticket.



Why you going to fat shame people like that.

You cannot charge different based off weight, what about their feelings
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21233 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:09 am to
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Come on FAA. Don’t drag this out


Have you met our government
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30550 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:13 am to
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At $20 a 200 lb person is ~$2,000 ticket. At $200 it’s $20,000

It’s $4000 once you add in all the Ticketmaster fees
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30550 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:17 am to
Elon will go down as one of the most important people in history IMO
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:18 am to
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That led to speculation that SpaceX would need to perform a second static-fire test to get all 33 engines, or to run them at higher thrust levels.


If I know anything about how engineers work, that thing doesn't need even close to 100% thrust from all 33 engines to make it to orbit.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30550 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:19 am to
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If I know anything about how engineers work, that thing doesn't need even close to 100% thrust from all 33 engines to make it to orbit.

I don’t know the figures but I’m sure there’s at least a few engines on there for reliability in the chance that a couple don’t operate or go out mid flight
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5492 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:20 am to
The really hard part is gonna be catching the giant booster with the chopsticks attached to the launch tower. They probably won't attempt it the first try but if Elon can pull that off he's the GOAT technologist, or maybe rube goldberger.

Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1483 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:07 pm to
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If I know anything about how engineers work, that thing doesn't need even close to 100% thrust from all 33 engines to make it to orbit.

Fully loaded, a full stack Starship with 100T payload using the current Raptor 2 engines has a thrust to weight ratio of 1.5x. It's going to leap off the pad like Shuttle did.
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