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re: Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?

Posted on 10/31/22 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 5:24 pm to
Farmers come to a stop as well. No diesel - no tractors.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7956 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 6:10 pm to
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No, it’s not real
can’t be, diesel is only 50% higher than gasoline right now. any cheaper and it would be free
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
12494 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 6:26 pm to
went to Walmart today to fill up (2500 Duramax) and they were all out of diesel.

Gonna check back tomorrow. If they're out, I'll have to go to the Shell station down the road and pay 5.79/gal.

Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 10/31/22 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1927 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 6:34 pm to
The WH press secretary was asked about this situation. They didn't give a straight answer. The upper part of nation might spent 5k on heating oil this winter. Natural gas will increase to 28%. There is shortage on energy products.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 6:53 pm to
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Is this potential Diesel Fuel Shortage Real?
no
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38262 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 8:30 pm to
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CitizenK


Only took him several hours to find his talking point online

He also believes that Putin is the cause for this if true.
This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 8:31 pm
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12892 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 8:39 pm to
Yes... IF:

A) you define "shortage" as levels being lower than normal or historically.

B) you realize that it doesn't become a "real shortage", i.e. not available where needed the most unless something causes disruptions in the production (e.g. gulf coast hurricane).

So it is real by the (a) definition of a shortage. It isn't a real problem unless something derails production.

Prices are rising, as opposed to spiking, indicating the market is baking the low levels of supply into the cake. Production levels are flat or on a slight decline while demand has increased significantly. It is a simple mass balance over, right now, a short period of time. The longer the time those two trends continue (and they are never indefinite) the bigger the problem will become and the more prices will rise.

If prices spike, large amount in short period of time, then it is an indication we're entering into a true shortage, in the conventional definition we're all familiar with, where availability becomes more of an issue than price.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17545 posts
Posted on 10/31/22 at 8:43 pm to
I don't think we'll run out, the danger is if something happens where there is a sudden halt or sharp decrease in production. Short of a war, I don't see anything happening.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:38 am to
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Don’t think military will have an issue. Regular consumers, damn right.


Military will have to move to the front of the supply line but they typically get their supplies from the same evil oil companies consumers due.
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