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Grass question

Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:31 pm
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5742 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:31 pm
Got fairly shady area. Cent and St Aug worked not at all or so so. Anyone try Zoysia in shady, medium drainage area?
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6176 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:11 pm to
Geozoysia but even that depends on how much sun?
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5742 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:53 pm to
Between two areas about 20ft apart so it gets some sun for 3-4 hours and a strip gets no direct sun.
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 9:03 pm to
I have used several zoysia varieties in shade and they don’t work well at all. ‘Palmetto’ St Aug is the best grass in shade and it has issues too.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5742 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 11:04 pm to
I dumped 2 bags of Rye grass on it at the beginning of each winter just to make it look nice. Grows great! At least something will grow!
Posted by questionable
FL
Member since Apr 2008
1017 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:58 am to
Rye is fricken awesome, wish there was something similar which could survive our summers. Gonna be a rich SOB who figures that out in the future.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13470 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:26 am to
quote:

I dumped 2 bags of Rye grass on it at the beginning of each winter just to make it look nice. Grows great! At least something will grow!


This could be part of your problem. Rye grass hangs around til June ish in my area. Centipede and st augustine should be fully greened up by April. That means your rye has been competing with your other grasses for sunlight, nutrients, water. That is why it’s not reccomended to overseed warm season grasses.

You need to thin the canopy as much as possible and promote the st augustine. It’s about the only thing with a chance.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6097 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 7:05 am to
Yeah rye, you need to kill off at the beginning of green up to give your warm season grass a chance.


quote:

Rye is fricken awesome, wish there was something similar which could survive our summers. Gonna be a rich SOB who figures that out in the future.


I'm in an experiment right now with spf-30 Kentucky blue grass right now, you can also by a blend called combat extreme southern zone. There's people out of Atlanta and DFW that are surviving the heat and full sun in the summer. Not sure how well it will fare with heat + humidity(in Savannah). I don't think it'll survive full sun but I'm testing it out in my shaded areas since the previous owners sodded with Bermuda everywhere and it was destined to die off.

I'm just getting the sprout and spout phase and starting to get some vertical growth.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5742 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 7:14 am to
It was thin way before I put the Rye out there unfortunately. I did mix in some St. Aug sod in the area, but it dies out in majority shade areas too. So its a 3 grass area now! You’re right, someone will be rich if they can breed a shade tolerant grass that works really well.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10695 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 8:20 am to
If st aug didn’t work neither will zoysia. I find the zoysia I do have in shaded places is very thin and any foot traffic destroys it fast.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6176 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 8:28 am to
LINK

There are many varieties of zoysia. Geo has better shade tolerance of any St Aug. Geo will grow in 3-4 hours. The strip that gets no sun will have to be planted with dwarf mondo.
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2603 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:30 am to
Zeon zoysia has the best shade tolerance for my experience.
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