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re: Can you still get 100% financing?
Posted on 9/29/08 at 8:36 pm to tigeralum06
Posted on 9/29/08 at 8:36 pm to tigeralum06
My bank in Hammond is advertising 103% financing on home loans!!!! I am puzzled
Posted on 9/29/08 at 9:06 pm to sabbertooth
Rural Development loans.
Great rate, no Mortgage Insurance.
Only thing is that there are geographical and income restrictions.
Great rate, no Mortgage Insurance.
Only thing is that there are geographical and income restrictions.
Posted on 9/29/08 at 9:13 pm to novabill
I got an FHA loan in June. I did not have a low enough income to qualify for the down payment assistance. Minimum I had to put down was 3%.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 12:38 pm to 9Fiddy
I've been doing Rural Development loans for the past 2 years and it's been my company's major source of income. 102% Financing (guarantee fee can be financed--no PMI, seller can pay for all closing costs (even beyond the standard 6%), and no maximum loan amount. Also the income limits are really good if you live in Southern Louisiana--1 to 4 person family can earn up to $74,000/yr. All properties in parishes surrounding East Baton Rouge are eligible--the City of Central at the present time is also eligible.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 4:13 pm to novabill
I'm closing on a house tomorrow that I sold to a young man that's getting a rural development loan. I've actually had quite a few using it this year. They have very good income, have good credit, but are young and haven't had a chance to save up a down payment.
I used to be the head of the loan department for a commercial bank in the 70's and we always required 30% down. By the way, those were the Carter years with 15% and up interest rates.
I didn't like selling houses to people with so little money down when I first started selling R/E years ago, but I always try to make sure my clients understand what they're getting into, I've rarely had anyone take out an ARM and I've never known of any house I've sold being foreclosed on.
I used to be the head of the loan department for a commercial bank in the 70's and we always required 30% down. By the way, those were the Carter years with 15% and up interest rates.
I didn't like selling houses to people with so little money down when I first started selling R/E years ago, but I always try to make sure my clients understand what they're getting into, I've rarely had anyone take out an ARM and I've never known of any house I've sold being foreclosed on.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 4:49 pm to lsubandmom
not sure what the savings were back in the "good ole days" with an arm, it may have been worth it. But, it is not at all today. In most cases the ARM rates are the same, in some cases, more than fixed rates.
I thought the down payment assistance program was going to come back as well, although those negotiations may turn in any direction now as the bigger picture is being addressed.
I thought the down payment assistance program was going to come back as well, although those negotiations may turn in any direction now as the bigger picture is being addressed.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 4:59 pm to novabill
I bought a house in May 100% financing with a RD loan. Definitely helped my arse. I make good money and have a lot saved, but they always say don't spend your life savings on your first place, you'll live there for no more than 5 years. Then put your equity in to your next house down payment. Makes sense to me.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 5:21 pm to NickyT
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How is that the problem if someone is obvious qualified? The problem was giving it to people who were or are not qualified.
What makes you think you're qualified? I put $50k salary and no other debt into this calculator LINK and came out with you being able to afford $140k to $175k with no down payment. That is assuming housing debt of 28% - 33% which is higher than I've traditionally seen recommended.
What makes you want to own rather than rent a home right now? It is expected that the market will continue to trend downward and then sideways for the next several years. I wouldn't expect much home appreciation for at least 5 years possibly as many as 10.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 5:25 pm to NickyT
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How is that the problem if someone is obvious qualified?
I'd say if you are unable, or unwilling, to put 20% (minimum) down on something as important as a house, then you are by definition...unqualified.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 5:35 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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I'd say if you are unable, or unwilling, to put 20% (minimum) down on something as important as a house, then you are by definition...unqualified.
I'd say 20% is an arbitrary figure that is steeped in tradition. I do agree that some deposit is required, but who's to say someone putting up 5%, 10% or 15% are inherently unfit for home ownership?
Posted on 9/30/08 at 5:51 pm to TigerinATL
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I'd say 20% is an arbitrary figure that is steeped in tradition. I do agree that some deposit is required, but who's to say someone putting up 5%, 10% or 15% are inherently unfit for home ownership?
When I reference "I'd say..." I am generally referring to ME.
Certainly, responsible people can obtain loans and pay their bills with a much lower deposit amount. The deposit itself does not change the reliability of the borrower. But, I would not loan to them. 20% is steeped in tradition, we agree. Doesn't make it wrong.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 7:23 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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What makes you want to own rather than rent a home right now? It is expected that the market will continue to trend downward and then sideways for the next several years. I wouldn't expect much home appreciation for at least 5 years possibly as many as 10.
Not looking to buy right now, plan on holding off for at least a year. Problem is finding a roommate.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 8:16 pm to NickyT
I would think that someone who is 35 (not 25) with a long record of taking care of multiple major life changes and is still on top of things will always have opportunities to borrow on the most reasonable terms the market will allow.
Whether the market will allow for 100% or not, I don't know. But that's a damned nice picture to paint for the loan officer, if you need it push for it.
Whether the market will allow for 100% or not, I don't know. But that's a damned nice picture to paint for the loan officer, if you need it push for it.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 8:59 pm to foshizzle
Nicky I see what you are saying as being qualified but life sometimes throws things at you that are beyond your control.
I'll give you my story. When I lived in Austin back in 2000-2003, at the height of the whole dot com thing I purchased a home that I only put 5% down on. I was making $50,000 when I bought it, the home was $150,000. I had outstanding credit, never late on any payments, under $1000 in credit card debt, I was pretty responsible financially.
I was laid off in 2003 and decided to move back to Baton Rouge. I put the house up for sale only to find that it was now valued at around $135,000 because the market crashed out there due to do many people losing jobs. I was able to rent it for about 6 months and make payments for another two but then just could not do it any more. We ended up doing a short sale on the home which still affects your credit.
My point is you may be "qualified" but I do not recommend anything less than 10%, 15% is better, but 20% is a good mark.
I'll give you my story. When I lived in Austin back in 2000-2003, at the height of the whole dot com thing I purchased a home that I only put 5% down on. I was making $50,000 when I bought it, the home was $150,000. I had outstanding credit, never late on any payments, under $1000 in credit card debt, I was pretty responsible financially.
I was laid off in 2003 and decided to move back to Baton Rouge. I put the house up for sale only to find that it was now valued at around $135,000 because the market crashed out there due to do many people losing jobs. I was able to rent it for about 6 months and make payments for another two but then just could not do it any more. We ended up doing a short sale on the home which still affects your credit.
My point is you may be "qualified" but I do not recommend anything less than 10%, 15% is better, but 20% is a good mark.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 10:04 pm to nino2469
But Nino, think of all that equity you built up while you weren't stupidly throwing your money away on rent.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 10:38 pm to Tiger JJ
I chalk that one up to being young and dumb. I also had around 40,000 shares of stock in the company I worked for of which about 16,000 of them were fully vested at the end. At the peak the stock was around $178 a share and I sold may 250 shares total because I didn't understand it enough. I made zero from that when I could have at least had a nice little savings account for rainy days.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 10:40 pm to Tiger JJ
I know I am the wrong person to ask, as I make my living from people buying homes. That being said, I actually do agree with some of the logic offered about not buying in some markets. I would not buy in a declining market. However, if you are in Louisiana, we are still seeing values increase. Not nearly at the pace they once were but is not facing the difficulties seen in other markets. LINK
Posted on 10/1/08 at 12:16 am to novabill
Damn you mean that a 16 year old cant go into a mortgage company and buy a house with no money.....dont you know that its their right to own a house.......
Posted on 10/1/08 at 8:14 am to novabill
You need to do better than linking to a press release from a group of realtors.
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